Drabblecast 158 - Dr. Diablo Goes Through the Motions

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Re: Drabblecast 158- Dr. Diablo Goes Through the Motions

Post by swamp » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:49 pm

Drabblenews was fantastic! One of the things I like about Norm is that he lets us in on his brain. I could see him pitching ideas to himself about the drabble news peice "Well, I really want to do a Little Shop of Horrors send up, but maybe I should go with a left wing vs. right wing take on the stem cells, or maybe something about gnomes without coats...Oh, screw it, I'll put it all in there." And thanks for doing so.

Very surprized by the drabble. I saw that it was "Dear Occupant" and I figured "Now I get to see how a pro would do it". Then it started playing... :shock:. Thanks Norm, that was cool. 8). I hope everyone joins in the fun at Dribblecast and Clowns and Bunnies.

Dr. Diablo was great!

Oh, if only I could go to Balticon...

Twitfic was perfect.

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Post by ROU Killing Time » Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:41 pm

I'd kill to go to Balticon, it's not that far away. I'd just need to come up with the cash.

Seriously, who do you all need offed? One of those jerks that won't let you option a PKD or Gaiman story, perhaps?

Send me the name, and I'll send you my PayPal account.

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Post by Phenopath » Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:55 pm

Haha, GroomPorter broke Norm.

The Dr Diablo story nailed it with "I bet he was white"
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Post by guitardel » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:12 am

I was blown away by the creativity of the Drabble News. How many Norms are there? One guy can't do all that. Oh, and by the way, I am going to get Norm or Sue for the nose picking reference. But hey, I'm an infectious disease doctor--you gotta drum up business somehow.
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Post by Leprejuan » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:21 am

Good ghod that was funny! I just couldn't believe the Little Shirt of Stemcells! It just kept going and going and then came back at the end for the funnier (dead) ending. :lol: After several months of listening and enjoying, this episode was enough to kick me in the @ss to go donate and join the forums.

I love superhero deconstruction, so I enjoyed the main story quite a bit. At first listen, it was nothing I hadn't heard before (why DON'T Dr. Diablo and PlanHatcher form a rational alternate group?) from Soon I will be Invincible or How to Succeed in Evil. http://succeedinevil.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; On second listen, I loved the way the villain's particular hang-ups (authority figures, white boy dominance in these stories) illuminated his character.

Have I mentioned how good Norm (or editors?) is at putting the music and sound cues into these stories? The fruity all-American music for the heroes' arrival and the cool Latin music as the fight begins and the plan dies was just spot on.

I'm afraid I was lukewarm about the dribble. I wanted a little more endhook in there like the one from the alien wedding recently. "The traditional response is, 'I do.'" Although it was an amusing conceit, I surfed TVtropes years ago and didn't hear anything particularly new in the instructions.

I loved the twitfic - it was a great drabble mix of mundane and the Lovecraftian. Nietzsche meets Kitsch. :)

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Post by ROU Killing Time » Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:50 am

Welcome to the forums, Leprejuan. I'm pretty sure that Drabblecast is put together, edited, and cued up pretty much exclusively by Norm, and yes he is a genius in that area. Big kudos for tossing a few bucks in his guitar case as he strums his tunes for the enjoyment of all.

I don't think anyone will take lukewarm on the dribble segment in a harsh way, you gotta call it as you see it, and no one involved in that project would ever presume to be up on the level of Norm and what he does. That being said, I do hope you check out the Dribblecast feed and see what it has to offer. It's a nice way to feed the Drabble-Jones while waiting for next weeks main event.

Norm is a hard act to follow, but it was very cool of him to give the project a shout-out on his show.
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Post by dreamrock » Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:06 am

The way I see it, even a story that 90% of all people love and adore is going to have some people who are lukewarm about it. I doubt even Harry Potter has 90% of people loving it. As long as the criticism isn't mean-spirited, I think that's totally kosher. For The Dribblecast, it just takes one person other than the author who loves it for that to make it on (well, that plus make it past the janitors). Most are 100 words so if you end up being 'meh' on the story, you've generally lost less than a minute and a half.

Additionally, you have the opportunity to help edit future Dribblecast material. If you see a story in the Drabble or Short Story forums, give it a read and see if you have any suggestions for improvement.

For a 'hook,' well, a lot of our Drabbles are intended to be funny. It's partially a reflection of the length being well-suited to humor and partially a reflection of the fans of the Drabblecast. However, not every Drabble needs to be comedy and not all comedy needs a hook (though hooks are nice and shiny, don't get me wrong). Dear Occupant was darkly humorous, but I don't think it was comedy per se. Dark grey comedy, maybe. :lol: It was like a darker reverse Beetlejuice in a sense. If it's not your thing, that's fine. I'm quite fond of it though.
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Post by ROU Killing Time » Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:26 am

dreamrock wrote:The way I see it, even a story that 90% of all people love and adore is going to have some people who are lukewarm about it. I doubt even Harry Potter has 90% of people loving it.
Raises hand as far as being lukewarm on Harry Potter, with the caveat that I hope I write something lukewarm that sells that well someday, and I absolutely love the Rowling Rags to Riches story behind it all. Plus, it gets lots of kids to read, and that's a great thing.
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Post by Scattercat » Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:59 am

Speaking as the author, I personally try to avoid 'punchline' drabbles as much as I can. "Vow" has had a lot of positive response, and I do like good jokes (I'm a big fan of almost any stand-up comedy), but I'm a lot more pleased with "Dear Occupant" as a 100-word story, if that makes sense. It's not the listing of the tropes which is meant to be funny in itself (though TVTropes is indeed enjoyable and can easily eat five hours or so anytime someone inadvertently links to it), but I'd hoped for a dark little smile at the thought of the existence of the letter as an artifact and the implications for whoever the poor bastard is who's holding it.

As they say, to each his own, one man's meat, etc. I just know that I feel like a cheater whenever I write a drabble with a punchline. Punchlines can always get a strong effect simply with the sudden turnaround. I'm much happier with myself when I can make something effective and evocative with the entire 100 words.

The Dribblecast is a fun thing, and I won't hear a word against it. (I know that wasn't at all your intended meaning, Leprejuan, never fear.) It was wonderful of Norm to take the time to nurture and support this little fan offshoot, and I am proud to be the writer-representative chosen as the vanguard, as it were.

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Post by Hatching Phoenix » Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:12 pm

I liked this episode. Both stories were clever tips of the hat to genre tropes, and the unspoken rules that genre fiction follows. I particularly liked Dr. Diablo's weary resignation. He knows the plan is doomed as soon as it starts, and even though he has superpowers, he's caught in the same sort of viscous cycle as everyone else. His ride is just a bit more fantastic. Both readings were excellent.
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Post by Raptor Redux » Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:48 am

I really liked the Drabble News. Excellent parody of Broadway musicals. If you haven't checked out the link to the stem cell coat, you should, the coat is there in the photo and it really is small. I can see how gnomes would come to mind.

Would love to see what Saladin Ahmed would come up with if he teamed up with Jeffrey R DeRego (Union Dues) story writer.

Amazing stuff. Nuff said.

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Post by jannypie » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:01 am

This was one of my favorite episodes of all time. The Victimless Jacket had me rolling: science + art = sure hit for me. Thanks for the laughs!
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Post by Wolfshade » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:42 pm

The Drabble News Musical was the coolest segment I've ever heard in a podcast. My jaw was on the floor. A signature episode.
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Post by myke_deschain » Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:09 am

Very much liked the main story, although the entire time I couldn't help but picture Dr. Evil's secret hidout from Austin Powers...

Great job on the drabble news as well.. Have yet to hear norm try his hand at musical tunes and I think he did a rather good job.

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Post by ROU Killing Time » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:35 am

myke_deschain wrote: Great job on the drabble news as well.. Have yet to hear norm try his hand at musical tunes and I think he did a rather good job.
His rather extensive repertoire of Bbardles is available on the episode archives that Saint Tom manages. Linked off the Drabblecast front page.

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ROU Killing Time wrote:
myke_deschain wrote: Great job on the drabble news as well.. Have yet to hear norm try his hand at musical tunes and I think he did a rather good job.
His rather extensive repertoire of Bbardles is available on the episode archives that Saint Tom manages. Linked off the Drabblecast front page.

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oh I'm quite familiar with them and they are very good.... I worded that funny... I suppose I meant norm trying his hand at Musical-genre like songs...

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myke_deschain wrote:
ROU Killing Time wrote:
myke_deschain wrote: Great job on the drabble news as well.. Have yet to hear norm try his hand at musical tunes and I think he did a rather good job.
His rather extensive repertoire of Bbardles is available on the episode archives that Saint Tom manages. Linked off the Drabblecast front page.

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oh I'm quite familiar with them and they are very good.... I worded that funny... I suppose I meant norm trying his hand at Musical-genre like songs...
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Post by Richmazzer » Sat May 01, 2010 9:44 pm

Oh God, that Drabblenews had me in tears. Brilliant. Even before the Little Shop of Stemcells music started, the whole artsy hipster vs. redneck vs. snobby elitist vs. porn star, with accompanying combative music mixing together into one eventual chaotic mess was just great. Norm has a way of poking fun at extremism, or even just groups that tend to take themselves too seriously, in a way that somehow always seems lighthearted and even handed. Jon Stewart, Matt Stone and Trey Parker's bias shine through Southpark and Daily Show quite a bit, but I find it impossible to pin down a profile on Norm.
The outro music, Suddenly Stemcells, has me in stitches. Was so unexpected and awesome. Really, how cool would it be if Norm wrote and put on a whole broadway show? Clearly this episode proves it could even be a one man show, with all his range of voices and characters he does. Think about it Norm (you probably already have)
Mongolian Deathworm: The Musical!

The story was fantastic too. Bolddeceiver and leprejuan have summed up my thoughts better than I could myself. The end, when the League busts in, followed by Planhatcher rolling up his blueprints, Dr. Diablo charging up and Masher picking up the table to the backdrop of such fun Tex-mex music was a very fun and memorable moment for me. I for one would love to see more from Saladin and this malaise-filled, warts-and-all, reality TV type super-villian world. I enjoy it a great deal better than the Union Dues series that gets so much attention at Escapepod. It does have a hint of How to Succeed in Evil to it, but has much bigger potential I think.

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Post by moonowl » Tue May 11, 2010 9:32 pm

Saladin Ahmed also has a great story over on PodCastle. It's ep 102 "Hooves and the Hovel of Abdel Jameela"
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Post by Rish Outfield » Sun May 16, 2010 9:11 pm

This was an excellent story and all-around great episode. The "Little Shop of Horrors" stuff was so awesome that parts of me that I'd long considered dead reawakened and danced a jig. Kudos all around, sirs.

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