Drabblecast 075 - Trifecta IV

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Drabblecast 075 - Trifecta IV

Post by Kevin Anderson » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:48 pm

Ephemeroptera’s Lament
by Craig Watson

The Crack in the Cosmic Egg
by Mike Resnick - fortunecity.com/tattooine/farmer/2/

No Strings Attached
by Thane Thompson

Bbardle- 75 Lines

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Post by AynSavoy » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:26 pm

First, I have to say: AMAZING BBARDLE. It's the best present a Drabblecast fan could get! Kudos, Norm.

Second, I thought the production was good overall for this episode. My one complaint: I wish the promo had been at the end of the podcast (between the outro and the bbardle, perhaps) instead of before the second story--it kinda interrupted the flow for me.

Ephemeroptera’s Lament - I thought this story was interesting and fun, especially in comparison to the Escape Pod mayfly story that ran a year ago.

The Crack in the Cosmic Egg
- I especially liked how this one was done. I wasn't sure about the music at first, but I think it went beautifully with the narration. This piece was my favorite.

No Strings Attached
- This one didn't do that much for me. That may be because I'm not a huge fan of Steve Eley's narration, but I just didn't find it that compelling.

Overall, though, good Trifecta, up there with the best of 'em. =)
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Post by tbaker2500 » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:12 am

Great episode! Good 'ol trifecta.

75'th episode, huh? Nice. What is that, an octopus anniversary? Or is it the spleen anniversary?


All three were well done and very enjoyable. I still prefer Norm's narration, but...

I'm waiting to listen to the bbardle a couple of more times to take it all in. Very cool!

Was it just me or was the bbardle mixed too loud and was clipping?

Keep it up, Norm!
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Post by tbaker2500 » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:14 am

Hey, look at that! You did remix it. I spoke too soon.
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Post by normsherman » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:42 am

yah, first copy was mixed too loud so hopefully most people got the second one I put out- bout an hour later. I'm on the road and running bout 75% but you can't dick around with the spleen anniversary. :-)
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Post by strawman » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:50 am

Steve is not my favorite narrator. I agree with Ayn about putting the promo at the end. The narrator for Cosmic Egg was pretty good. Norm's still the best. And the Bbardle was a true feat. I figured by the end Norm would be gasping breathlessly, "7--5---L---i--n--e---sssssssss..." but he finished strong. Having now proved that he is capable of anything, I hope that will be the last of the "bet-he-couldn't-do-this" challenge bbardles. I think I get maximum pleasure from songs that come from "Anything Goes-land". Congratulations on the Whale Cheese Award, Norm! Tell me, what makes a mention honorable?

The best part of Ephemeroptera’s Lament was Bob yelling from inside the trout. (A little hard to hear.) The story concept was promising, but I don't agree with the idea that the sense of duration is absolute. Our human lifespans are only a single day, in one sense. And each of the first hours make up a very high percentage of the total, so we experience them as long. A 4 year old spends 25% of his life getting to 5. A 59 year old spends less than 2% of his life getting to 60. And so your 4th year is, perceptually, 12 times longer than your 59th. The story would have been better had it touched on that.

Cosmic Egg was the best of the three, with it's novel explanation of universal expansion/contraction. For the 63rd time, creation is smart enough to attain light speed, but yet again forgets about infinite mass. Kind of a hindu vibe there. I hope, for God's sake, it isn't like that (if He has to watch).

But the universe isn't just expanding. It's accelerating. Which means that either antimatter and antigravity are forcing it away, or possibly that several strategically placed Thrups have attained light speed outside the universe, and it is collapsing outward. Either of which scenarios would be exceedingly Drabbleworthy. Maybe Thrup's adventures could be serialized, and we could have Thrup Explores a Black Hole and Thrup's Supernova Adventure.

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Ephemeroptera’s Lament

Post by StalinSays » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:50 am

Ephemeroptera’s Lament was choice, best Norm on Norm dialogue exchange since the time of mer-babies. God, why did you guys have to remind me of May Fly - that was more frightening that a years worth of Pseudopod.

I enjoyed B.J.'s read in the second segment. Actually got me to resubscribe to classic tales.

Nice Bardle. Oh diarrhea leaf wiping, I forgot you were woven in to the tapestry of DC history. Good show.

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Post by Igwiz » Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:07 am

Well, I had high hopes for this Trifecta, since I'm one of the authors. And when Norm said that Steve Ely was reading my story, I was psyched at first, because I listen to his podcast every week.

[edited] The story was intended to explore some significant, if subtle, character issues (overcoming grief to find love after the death of a spouse) in a new and unique way. I guess it felt like most of these subtleties were lost in translation.

My apologies regarding my overly harsh critique of Mr. Ely's narration (now deleted) or Norm's production of the piece. I guess this is what happens when somebody takes themselves a bit too serious. Obviously, this was the case with my original comments. Again, my apologies to Norm and the gang. [end edit]

As to the rest of the episode, I thought the first two stories were great and were well produced and well read. I've always loved Resnick, and I'm still honored to have shared an episode of the DC with him. Also, the Bbardle was amazing, Norm. Well done. I do agree with Strawman and AynSavoy that the promo would have been best placed between the Bbardle and the outro.

Overall, a good episode.

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Post by Mr. Tweedy » Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:05 am

Yowch! Harshest criticism ever!

I actually thought Steve's reading was pretty good... I thought his high, slightly-girly voice was appropriate for a character who may or may not be a foot-tall marionette. The tone of the story struck me as rather goofy, tongue-in-cheek and Steve's voice generally strikes me in the same way. It was a good match. I also thought the music was good. It was a kind of fun, offbeat sound that I thought fit right in with the idea of grumpy, lonely, obnoxiously liberal toys trying to find dates. (Really, how seriously could you expect that idea to be presented, even if it was a metaphor?) Of course, I haven't seen much in the way of knock-off porn, so it could be that my judgement is uninformed.

I can't believe you got B.J. Harrison to read for you, Norm! That rocks! He's the only guy on the whole internet who has performance skills to rival yours (deathmatch?). It was great to hear both voices in the same podcast. But despite the welcome presence of B.J., I didn't like the story much. The idea was cute in a way (as cute as universal annihilation can be), but it was a very simple idea and it wasn't supported by much in the way of scenery or characters. It would have been a great drabble, but there just wasn't enough to it stay fun for much longer than that. Resnick stories are always hit-or-miss for me.

The mayfly story kind of hit me the same way. It too was very cute, but it seemed like kind of a one-trick pony. Okay, the dudes are mayflies... That's funny... Okay... I kept waiting for something to happen. Perhaps if Clara* had been given some lines... The production was superb, however. I continue to be impressed with Norm's ability to talk to himself.

Altogether, a good show, even it didn't reach the same pinnacle as Trifecta 3.


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Post by delfedd » Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:30 pm

Once again, I'm going to affirm that "the crack in the cosmic egg" is the best story in this Trifecta.

And I agree, this should be illustrated and read to children.

The story about the mayflies was good, but also a bit too much like a Terry Pratchett dialogue where two elderly mayflies talk about the good old hours.

"There used to be a cow. I liked the cow."

And honesty, coming up against Terry Pratchett is unfortunate.

I didn't like the marrionette one. It seemed muted and dull while I listened to it. I did like that the twist wasn't the completely obvious one.

I took it differently, however, than everyone else seems to have. The Narrator was a grown up Pinocchio. I like the idea of Pinocchio running a toyshop because he's so lonely.

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Post by Mr. Tweedy » Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:11 pm

delfedd wrote:I took it differently, however, than everyone else seems to have. The Narrator was a grown up Pinocchio. I like the idea of Pinocchio running a toyshop because he's so lonely.
That's how I took it too: I thought he was a literal marionette living in a whacked-out fantasy world where it's not unusual for humans and toys go out on dates with each other (this is The Drabblecast, after all). But when the author complained that the story wasn't presented seriously enough, I figured it must have been intended as just a metaphor.
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Post by tbaker2500 » Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:07 pm

Igwiz wrote:Well, I had high hopes for this Trifecta, since I'm one of the authors. And when Norm said that Steve Ely was reading my story, I was psyched at first, because I listen to his podcast every week.

[edited] The story was intended to explore some significant, if subtle, character issues (overcoming grief to find love after the death of a spouse) in a new and unique way. I guess it felt like most of these subtleties were lost in translation.
I generally don't like intentionally deep storylines draped in similes, homophones, metaphors or xylophones. But I really did like this one. I felt lots of subtleties came through in poignant ways.

Thanks for the great story.
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Post by zZzacha » Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:32 pm

WoW, what a great episode of the Drabblecast!

Ephemeroptera’s (Norm, you must have practiced with that one...) Lament - a cute story, but it lacked some climax or something. As Mr. Tweedy said, I kept waiting for something to happen, because it was obvious where this would lead.

I loved The Crack in the Cosmic Egg. As always, Mike Resnick knows how to put a bunch of words in a very nice order. I always enjoy his storytelling very much.

I'm just going to put this piece of comment right here, between the stories.
At first, I thought it was kinda weird to have a promo in between the stories, but at the end of the episode I understood why it was done. The promo could not have fitted anywhere else in the episode. It would ruin the wonderful Bbardle at the end. That great song needs its own space to sink in, because it's just awesome!
And anywhere else, the promo would just be even weirder. Hmmm... that would make it more drabblecasty though... Let's hide some promo's somewhere in the episodes. Just for the weirdness of it :]

No Strings Attached - the story was funny and cute and [agreeing with Mr. Tweedy again] it fitted so well with both the music and Steve's voice, bringing the goofyness of the story to a higher level. I say that without implying that any one of these three elements are dumb, 'kay!

And The Bbardle - WoW, great, awesome! All the episodes I've been pumping in my head the last month or so in one great song. As I say in Holland: "Hulde!!!" And, as I said on this forum before - without losing the depthness of my statement of course - I LOVE IT. LOVE IT. IT, I LOVE :]
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Post by bearclaws » Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:02 pm

Yah, I wasn't sure what to do with the promo. Originally I had it at the end but it felt weird there with the bbardle. If it was any longer than 30 seconds I would have just played it on a different episode.

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Post by normsherman » Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:04 pm

oops, was signed in on luke's computer.
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Post by Craig Watson » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:16 pm

I just had a chance to listen to what you did with Ephemeroptera's and I wanted to say great job. I thought the narration was dead-on and the music was perfect. Thanks for taking such care with it!

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Post by StalinSays » Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:57 pm

Mr. Tweedy wrote:I can't believe you got B.J. Harrison to read for you, Norm! That rocks! He's the only guy on the whole internet who has performance skills to rival yours (deathmatch?).
That just gave me the mental audio of B.J. narrated Death Match episode, with Norm and the fan's script behind Mr. Harrison's refined tone. My god, if he took it to a hardcore, tongue-in-cheek place, it would be rivaled by nothing in the pod'o'verse for years to come. Someone should bullet him over the hot-line number, and tightly cross their fingers.

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Post by Mr. Tweedy » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:10 pm

StalinSays wrote:
Mr. Tweedy wrote:I can't believe you got B.J. Harrison to read for you, Norm! That rocks! He's the only guy on the whole internet who has performance skills to rival yours (deathmatch?).
That just gave me the mental audio of B.J. narrated Death Match episode, with Norm and the fan's script behind Mr. Harrison's refined tone. My god, if he took it to a hardcore, tongue-in-cheek place, it would be rivaled by nothing in the pod'o'verse for years to come. Someone should bullet him over the hot-line number, and tightly cross their fingers.
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Post by Richmazzer » Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:51 am

Great show! My favorite was the last piece. It started out cute, a bunch of crazy bachelor toys just messing around but ended up being very poignant and actually made me water up a bit with the message about cutting old strings. I thought Steve nailed the narration and I liked how his tone changed towards the end to match the writing.

The Resnick story was expertly narrated but I didn't get it. Twice. Maybe if I listen to it 63 times I'll understand it fully.

Ephemeroptera's was light and fun. Bugs calling each other "fat-ass" and saying "I'm gonna go hit that"...gotta love it.

Bbardle- Amazing.

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Post by jalan » Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:45 am

I liked all three, although I think a darker story could have balanced this Trifecta a bit more. Cosmic Egg was a fun idea, but that's mostly it. I really liked No Strings Attached, I thought it created a neat world not too different from our own with people and/or toys not too different from us. Enjoyed the readings and music to both.
The Mayfly story made me laugh a few times and was great for what it was (very short!)
Bravo!

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