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Drabblecast 127 - Nanuq

Postby Kevin Anderson » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:20 am

Drabblecast 127

Drabble- The Place Where Dogs Go When They Die
by John Medaille

Nanuq
by John Kratman

His years away from me had bled any belief he once had in the old ways. I had thought to educate him, to make him wise in the ways of science and the world. I thought after he graduated he would return and learn the way of the _angatquq_, the shaman, and take his place in the secret circles of the People, as his mother had. But the University had narrowed his mind instead of widening it. He had turned his back on his people...

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Postby strawman » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:12 pm

Nanuq means "polar bear" in Inuktitut, but I wish the title was different, as it evokes the old Nanook of the North.
However, that's picking nits. Similar to the story Harry the Crow, Kratman is so out of the box that he is almost a genre unto himself. No one else that I am aware of has asked the question that this answers: What happens when you project a neolithic culture into the sci-fi future? In both stories you also get the theme of generational skepticism encountering cultural/traditional truth, which is an interesting basis for storytelling (and probably has been since the days of caveteens and their Elders).

Well written and, as usual, well presented. Two thumbs up.
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Postby Mr. Tweedy » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:58 pm

I LOLed at the intro, where Norm discusses which people, organizations and/or inanimate objects enjoy catching either grass carp or pike. That's classic Norm: Take some simple bit of trivia or common phrase and expand on it to the point where you've built this absurd mythology around it, like a rhetorical Rube-Goldberg machine. The best example of this was his expansion of the Creative Commons License blurb into a future history of the world, but being told that the flu catches grass carp was pretty funny too.

The story was interesting, but I can't say I really understand it. If the shamans are using future technology, then surely the son, being very much a child of his time, would already know about it and understand that, yes, the bear is his mother. Rather than be skeptical of his father's ideas, he would simply think it odd that his father would refer to modern cybernetics using religious language. He would also probably find it offensive that his father would be going out to ritually hunt his mother rather than dispatching the Coast Guard to rescue her. Or is it the case that Native American shamans have always used advanced cybernetics? That interpretation raises way too many questions.

I guess I feel like the story mixed up ancient and futuristic more or less at random, without much evident logic as so which parts went where. That made for an interesting ride, but I don't feel like it took me anywhere.
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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby ROU Killing Time » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:59 pm

I had the same reaction to the grass carp/pike fisherman dichotomy. The biggest laugh coming at "Laker Fans." I'm from Portland, Oregon and right next to a Trailblazer win, a Laker loss warms the hearts of us here nearly as much.

The drabble and story were good. Not the best in the history of the drabblecast, but worthwhile nonetheless. With 127 episodes of strange goodness the bar has been set pretty high already and not every story can be #1. That being said I enjoyed them both very much, even though Norm is consistently upstaging the main events with his intro's/outro's. (Passes Norm a fresh bar of Irish Spring and a towel...)

As for listener feedback, gosh it's amazing how insightful some of those comments were. Particularly the first one.

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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby Kevin Anderson » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:01 pm

Great Googly Moogly!

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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby strawman » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:38 pm

Yeah. There oughta be a law.
Tweedy, I was just thinking about that outro this morning, wondering which episode it was on. Do you remember?
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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby F5iver » Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:25 am

Geeze, that drabble was so similar in theme to the one I sent in!
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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby alhilton » Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:11 am

The grass carp - ROTFL

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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby StalinSays » Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:02 pm

Laker fans... indeed. How they do love throwing parades for their sex offenders.

The story was solid, but it didn't light my imagination on fire. Nothing unexpected. Norm's bookends, as always, keep the show in week's highlights.
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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby ROU Killing Time » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:46 pm

Yes, Norm is a solid and witty writer. I hate you for that Norm... ;-)

Someone had mentioned they missed Norm doing his own work on the drabblecast citing "The Guardian" from the early episodes.

Have to agree. That story was just as strong as any other submitted work, and it would be great to see some more of Norm's fiction.

But, he has to be starting to feel a real time crunch, what with DC and the time he'll have to spend with his new second mommy over at EP. Somebody get on the phone to LDS and find out where that playa's planet is. Probably held up in customs.

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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby tbaker2500 » Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:21 pm

F5iver wrote:Geeze, that drabble was so similar in theme to the one I sent in!
I wonder if there's a meme jet stream flowing through the genre interweb.


Or someone hacked your account. :D
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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby Phenopath » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:03 pm

Hmm, I agree with Stalin.

This story checked all the boxes (father/son hoha, igloos, bear wrestling, disembodied mum), and was well written. The closest story I can compare it to is 'Harry the Crow' (obviously), which drew me in a little more (that may be a function of length).
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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby F5iver » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:13 pm

tbaker2500 wrote:
Or someone hacked your account. :D


As teacher of 8th graders, all I can say to that is its like cheating off the dumb kid.

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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby ROU Killing Time » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:33 pm

F5iver wrote:Geeze, that drabble was so similar in theme to the one I sent in!
I wonder if there's a meme jet stream flowing through the genre interweb.


See "Morphic Resonance"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphic_field
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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby Phenopath » Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:32 am

There is nothing more depressing than Morphic Resonance
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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby ROU Killing Time » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:42 am

Phenopath wrote:There is nothing more depressing than Morphic Resonance


I beg to differ.

When the Trailblazers were leading by 17 points with 8 minutes to go in a forced game seven of the western conference finals against the Lakers ON the Lakers home court in front of God and Jack Nicholson and then succeeded in performing the greatest choke in the entire history of sports, snatching defeat from the jaws of the most glorius series comeback imaginable...

THAT was more depressing than Morphic Resonance.

(the depth of my raging passion associated with that game justifies the rather impressive run-on sentence, imo)
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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby Nervous Tick » Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:24 am

As a catcher of Jack fish (pike) I am pleased to see them getting them getting the respect they need and deserve. Although I feel Norm missed one major food group that ups their badassedness to a whole new level; human hands. I've seen it, heard it, and felt it. When those suckers are hungry, you become the fishing hook line and sinker (har har).
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Postby tbaker2500 » Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:28 pm

Welcome to the forums, badass fish catcher!
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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby Mr. Tweedy » Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:55 pm

tbaker2500 wrote:Welcome to the forums, badass fish catcher!
You are officially member 299!

Which, if flipped upside down, is 665, which is the number of the Beast minus one. Ominous!
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Re: Drabblecast 127- Nanuq by John Kratman

Postby tbaker2500 » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:42 am

Oh, you remembered! How sweet. i was waiting until we got to 2/3rds of a devil, but hey.
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