Drabblecast 137 - Doubleheader V

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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by tbaker2500 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:15 am

It's hard to get across a wink and a nod in text. I suppose I should have used an emoticon.
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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by ROU Killing Time » Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:30 am

Hmmm, the link to Igor Teper on the drabblecast site seems to be broken. Takes you to Stanford, but then, "Link not found..."
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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by Richmazzer » Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:24 pm

Good stories! Kim-Norm interplay seemed really natural, like recorded live. They must send clips though, so good job.
Quantum was a funny scam- maybe next year's nigerian spam email contest?

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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by normsherman » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:13 pm

Wow ROU, you just got props from a major writer. *high fives*

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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by ROU Killing Time » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:17 pm

normsherman wrote:Wow ROU, you just got props from a major writer. *high fives*

http://kenyonsf.livejournal.com/42831.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
Wow, I don't know what to say. (Can it be, is ROU actually speechless for once? Say it ain't so, Joe...) My "Aw Shucks" generator has gone red-line, and is now hissing and steaming under the hood.

All of the nice comments here on the forum have been wonderful and gratifying and I have come to feel like all of you are very good friends never met.

I was talking about the process of writing with my wife's grandfather who is a rather successful painter, and we both agreed that first and foremost, when painting or writing, the first thing you do is try and write something that pleases the creator and captures and idea and transforms it into something. It's easy to write something you don't like, but it feels good when you write something you do like. When other's like it too, well that's a feeling that we both agreed, in writing or in painting is a very nice thing indeed.

Kay, if you peruse these forums, thank you very much for the kind words. I often think that I put the "F" in fledgling, but today I feel like I got an "A" for aspiring.

Nice props for you too, there Norm, but I guess you've gotten used to that with the heaps of well-deserved praise you receive for what you do.
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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by tbaker2500 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:16 pm

Yea, Norm's all like "How boring, another person praising me about my talent. Man, I wish those guys would just shut up." I think he's just doing it for the money.


Congrats ROU! So when am I going to see more of your book?
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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by ROU Killing Time » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:07 pm

I think this is the kick in the pants I need to get off my tookus. Soon, Saintly one, soon.
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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by Algernon Sydney is Dead » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:30 am

ROU Killing Time wrote:I think this is the kick in the pants I need to get off my tookus. Soon, Saintly one, soon.
No! If you get up, THAT's when your key, pant-based targets are exposed!

Anyway, Gongrats, Mr. Killing. Remember to get us tickets when Oprah comes a-calling. :D

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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by ROU Killing Time » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:02 am

Algernon Sydney is Dead wrote:
ROU Killing Time wrote:I think this is the kick in the pants I need to get off my tookus. Soon, Saintly one, soon.
No! If you get up, THAT's when your key, pant-based targets are exposed!

Anyway, Gongrats, Mr. Killing. Remember to get us tickets when Oprah comes a-calling. :D
Thank you, sir. Sadly, no Oprah tickets will be possible. You didn't hear the news that she's retiring? Hillary's gotta be thinking "oh, chit, so much for job security..."
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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by Dan J » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:11 am

The funny part of Quantum PI is that the scamming gumshoe has (deliberately) mis-quoted Quantum Mechanics! He has conveniently forgotten to mention that the act of measuring the system will *disturb the system*. Hah! I bet his customer should-a remembered that.

So when he looks in one of the likely places, the quantum field is disturbed. That means the missing ring can now be in all of the possible places his mark might have left it, plus one or two new, totally unlikely places she would usually never have put it. For example in the freezer behind the chopped frozen spinach.

Come to think of it, maybe that's what happened to that Congressman from Louisiana. Nailed for putting the wad of bribes in the freezer. Maybe he was framed by the FBI. I can see it now. A huge government run Conspiracy. The money starts out in a perfectly legit location. Say in the bank account used for campaign contributions. But the FBI starts looking, and looking and looking. Warrant after warrant, searching all the legitimate places, then a few obvious illegitimate locations, until, POW! the quantum field collapsed into the fridge!

I gotta go. I think I see dark shapes moving outside my window....

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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by strawman » Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:37 pm

Sounds like a legitimate defense strategy to me. I particularly like your closing argument.

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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by Unblinking » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:20 pm

The idea behind Quantum Gumshoe was cute, but I have trouble buying that people would actually buy his "you pay me for doing nothing" strategy.

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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by ROU Killing Time » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:56 pm

Unblinking wrote:The idea behind Quantum Gumshoe was cute, but I have trouble buying that people would actually buy his "you pay me for doing nothing" strategy.
You forget about John Edward or Mistress Cleo of the psychic friends network...
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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by Unblinking » Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:42 pm

ROU Killing Time wrote:
Unblinking wrote:The idea behind Quantum Gumshoe was cute, but I have trouble buying that people would actually buy his "you pay me for doing nothing" strategy.
You forget about John Edward or Mistress Cleo of the psychic friends network...
To be fair, I have trouble believing that anyone would fall for many things that they do. But I'm even more surprised at this--I feel that people are more inclined to fall for mystic handwaving "there are things beyond the veil beyond our ken" sort of thing than quantum handwaving. Mystic handwaving appeals to part of my brain even while another part is yelling "shenanigans!", but his quantum handwaving spiel doesn't really appeal to any part of my brain, and it rather smells of cat litter. I'm no expert at quantum physics, and maybe I'd be more willing to consider his explanation if I knew much about it, but as a layman it smelled strongly of BS.

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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by tbaker2500 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:47 am

Unblinking wrote:To be fair, I have trouble believing that anyone would fall for many things that they do. But I'm even more surprised at this--I feel that people are more inclined to fall for mystic handwaving "there are things beyond the veil beyond our ken" sort of thing than quantum handwaving. Mystic handwaving appeals to part of my brain even while another part is yelling "shenanigans!", but his quantum handwaving spiel doesn't really appeal to any part of my brain, and it rather smells of cat litter. I'm no expert at quantum physics, and maybe I'd be more willing to consider his explanation if I knew much about it, but as a layman it smelled strongly of BS.
Have you looked at the magnetic healing shenanigans going on these days? They prey heavily on the scientific aspect of magnetic fields, whilst failing to quote any reputable scientific study.

I think you give the public too much credit here.
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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by Unblinking » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:07 pm

tbaker2500 wrote: Have you looked at the magnetic healing shenanigans going on these days? They prey heavily on the scientific aspect of magnetic fields, whilst failing to quote any reputable scientific study.

I think you give the public too much credit here.
Yes, but even that has more convincing handwaving then the quantum explanation in this story. It's all about finding a spiel that makes sense to your average layman customer.

For magnetic healing, consider accepted facts:
-magnets attract magnetic metals in certain ways, including iron. This may
-Our blood contains iron, that's where the red color comes from in the hemoglobin.
-Healthy systems depend on (among other things) steady blood flow.
HANDWAVED CONCLUSION:
-careful placement of magnets can be used to stimulate blood flow, which helps with healing.

Regardless of scientific studies to support this evidence, the basic conclusion makes some sense to a layman in a vague sort of way, and combined with a confident salesman voice convincing a person that the person they're talking to is an expert, I can see how one buy into the premise.

The thing about quantum physics is that if you don't understand the basics (like me), it all sounds like bullshit. I suspect that if you understand it all perfectly you could point out the flaws. It seems like the target audience would be those who think they know more than they do about quantum physics, first-year students in such a curriculum or something. It doesn't seem like it would work well on the layman masses because it doesn't make sense on an intuitive level.

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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by Unblinking » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:17 pm

As another example, consider the lottery as another sale. I've personally never been interested in spending money on lottery tickets, because it is a system designed solely to generate revenue for those running the lottery. The house always wins. Always. That means that lots of people are dumping in money they don't have to create this net flow of money towards the lottery administrator. But the lottery has huge jackpots, and when someone wins one, that person ends up on TV talking about all the crap they're going to spend it on, and your average viewer sees this and says "That could be me! I could pay off my house loan, my credit card, pay for some plastic surgery, and never have to work again! Woohoo!". The same person probably isn't worried about getting struck by lightning, because the odds are too low, but when thinking of the lottery the "it could be me" feeling prevails enough that some people bankrupt themselves chasing that jackpot.

Again, scientifically, playing the lottery doesn't make much sense. But it has an element that appeals to the illogical side of our brains, and seeing those people on TV is the sales pitch to push people over into belief.

(And hey, if you can spare a few bucks and you get excited about checking the numbers, more power to you. I spend my money on video games, which reward me for my expenditure by showing me patterns of blinking lights... There's not even an income potential there! What a fool I am!)

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Re: Drabblecast 137- Doubleheader V: Igor Teper

Post by strawman » Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:14 am

Staring at blinking lights is highbrow compared to digital porn. Really perverse getting turned on by watching a collection of ones and zeroes.
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