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Spread the Word (alien theme)

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:29 pm
by uncre8d1
The diner had never been so silent. The little triped clacked in its own language and opened its robe, revealing a brace of explosives. A translation grated from the nearest table's talkbox.

"For defying the teachings of Sagan the Unbeliever, you all die."

First contact brought human faith to the galaxy. Terrans were unique with their well-developed religions, and many had become missionaries for Buddha or Christ or Darwin.

The aliens learned some unspoken lessons too, inevitably dividing along religious and political lines- and now it seemed the intergalactic jihad had even reached the peaceful people of the Quaker State.

Re: Spread the Word

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:31 pm
by strawman
Death to 10W40 !

Re: Spread the Word

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:53 pm
by admiralsunshine
I've always thought that, if we did make contact, our world religions would undoubtedly spread themselves through to the others. This is a good take on what would probably happen eventually, if that ever happened. Humans spreading the hate and whatnot

Re: Spread the Word

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:08 pm
by uncre8d1
Without actual exposure to alien psychology, we can only theorize about our culture's effects upon them. I'd like to believe that outside eyes would help us find the big truths , the seeking of which has brought us into so much conflict. This drabble is the cynical take on this dynamic (seeing the intercultural dialogue as 'contamination' instead of opportunity). It's not meant as a knock on religion. People who want to justify killing will do so, as shown by history- atheistic governments have killed far more people than holy wars, witch burnings, conversion by the sword, etc. The introduction of religion into an otherwise homogenous group too often introduces an 'us vs. them' dynamic. Same thing with race, gender, language, borders, fashion, etc. None of these things are evil in themselves, but they can be easily used by evil people. There's a good cartoon up on YouTube about 'Dr. Ism' and his wonderful elixir. Not totally impartial as it endorses capitalism over all other systems, but it gets the point across.

Re: Spread the Word

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:46 am
by admiralsunshine
uncre8d1 wrote:Without actual exposure to alien psychology, we can only theorize about our culture's effects upon them. I'd like to believe that outside eyes would help us find the big truths , the seeking of which has brought us into so much conflict. This drabble is the cynical take on this dynamic (seeing the intercultural dialogue as 'contamination' instead of opportunity). It's not meant as a knock on religion. People who want to justify killing will do so, as shown by history- atheistic governments have killed far more people than holy wars, witch burnings, conversion by the sword, etc. The introduction of religion into an otherwise homogenous group too often introduces an 'us vs. them' dynamic. Same thing with race, gender, language, borders, fashion, etc. None of these things are evil in themselves, but they can be easily used by evil people. There's a good cartoon up on YouTube about 'Dr. Ism' and his wonderful elixir. Not totally impartial as it endorses capitalism over all other systems, but it gets the point across.


I guess I'm a bit of a cynic because I honestly believe that we would corrupt any alien species we ever came across. Even if they did hold truths and lost knowledge and all that, I think that people would find ways to be blind to it and corrupt at least some of the alien civilization. Of course that may or any not have to do with religion, I agree completely that religion, politics, etc. aren't inherently evil. And I have seen that cartoon before actually, it did get its point across well!

Re: Spread the Word

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:22 pm
by strawman
Any kind of influence can be interpreted as corruption, can't it? And influence is inevitable. Things change. Some for better; some for worse.

But some other things never change. There will always be people *cough*ROU*cough* who welcome, for one, their alien overlords.

Re: Spread the Word

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:33 pm
by Christi
I don’t consider myself to be a preppy upbeat optimist, but surely humanity would be able to offer something good to an alien race.
A species capable of music and poetry can give something positive to the universe?

Re: Spread the Word

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:55 pm
by uncre8d1
Christi wrote:I don’t consider myself to be a preppy upbeat optimist, but surely humanity would be able to offer something good to an alien race.
A species capable of music and poetry can give something positive to the universe?
Sure hope so. It'd be mighty embarrassing to find out that we're being ignored by the galactic community until we come up with something original.

Say, that gives me an idea for a drabble...

Re: Spread the Word

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:57 pm
by strawman
Except for those alien cultures in which rhyming of words is the worst form of incest.

Re: Spread the Word

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:18 pm
by uncre8d1
strawman wrote:Except for those alien cultures in which rhyming of words is the worst form of incest.
Taboo Vogon porn? I wonder how quickly this forum would be blacklisted...

Re: Spread the Word (alien theme)

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:10 pm
by strawman
Have we not given the galaxy bbardles and strange particles? Heck, isn't that better than $27 worth of glass beads?

Re: Spread the Word (alien theme)

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:17 pm
by uncre8d1
True, but how many bbardles buy a hyperdrive? And how many drabbles for sufficient canned Gleekian souls to power said drive?

And it may be moot anyway - until we establish intergalactic copyright agreements, it could be claimed that we're just giving the stuff away. Especially if anyone has been watching us royally screw each other in court. It may be that we've already given the galaxy an important gift: the ambulance-chasing shyster.

Re: Spread the Word (alien theme)

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:36 pm
by Loren Eaton
Sagan and Darwin as religious figures ... Interesting -- and accurate, methinks.

Re: Spread the Word (alien theme)

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:09 pm
by uncre8d1
Loren Eaton wrote:Sagan and Darwin as religious figures ... Interesting -- and accurate, methinks.
Yeah, I've had a lot of conversations with people who claim to be staunchly anti-religion, but almost none of them have put any more thought into what they believe than have the people they mock - and having blind, unquestioning faith in atheism is just as ridiculous as having that same faith in anything else. The only real difference I've seen is that most of those who believe in some kind of God live in a state of hope, which I admire.

Re: Spread the Word (alien theme)

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:12 pm
by The Drabbler
I like it, and it sparks an interesting debate.
Reminds me just a little bit of That Leviathan, Whom Thou Hast Made. (https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/84509)
It's about a Mormon missionary trying to convert aliens who can't relate to human religion.