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AVATAR

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:03 pm
by Mr. Tweedy
http://avatar.substance001.info/

Awesome? :? I am skeptical. Story looks cliché: Evil imperialists invade peaceful land to steal its resources. Primitive but resourceful natives resist. One of the imperialists falls for a native chick, switches sides. Epic battle, after which everyone resolves to share and play nice. Small twist in that the imperialist is wearing a puppet body, but even that has been done before.

This movie is riding on its special effects, but, really, that trailer didn't impress me. The effects are supposed to be Matrix-level revolutionary, that didn't look any better than Star Wars or, for that matter, a cutscene from a Blizzard game.

Impressions? Biased prejudgments?

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:42 pm
by ROU Killing Time
Are you dissing Blizzard?

Flap PvP and THEN say that n00b.

:D

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:48 pm
by Mr. Tweedy
You're right. I shouldn't insult Blizzard's cutscenes by comparing them to James Cameron movies. I apologize, Blizzard. Sorry.

uh

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:22 pm
by StalinSays
I'd be incredibly interested - if I was a furry.

Dunno, not feeling the trailer. Maybe it's all the hyperbole crashing to earth, I don't know. Likely I will see it, if only for the 3D. And to make fun or the inevitable rapid growing, rabies flowing fan base, who will rally around a mainstream event that implicitly condones their strange, internet emboldened sexual deviancy.

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:09 am
by moonowl
I just saw this-what did you guys think???

My eyes, they exploded. Really, the critics are a bunch of poopsticks if they can't see its amazing.

Oh, I wanna pterodactyl pal. Someone get working on it. I want a green one.

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:36 am
by StalinSays
http://drabblecast.freeforums.org/drabb ... 6-160.html

Start there in the reviews topic and you get Norm, me, and Alhiltion's thoughts. It's funny now to see Tweedy's review of the trailer. He's completely right about the story, completely wrong about the effects. Bad trailer.

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:59 am
by moonowl
Whoops! I lost it in that thread of (YAWN!) mostly video game stuff.

I still am waiting for my pterodactyl.

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:14 am
by StalinSays
As a consistent contributor I'd chart the reviews thread as: 40% movies, 25% games, 25% books, 10% other - don't yawn it right off the table now.

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:33 pm
by Phenopath
I dont get out much, and have therefore not seen the film. But have any of you guys been feeling a little suicidal since going to the cinema?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/12/avatar_blues/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:55 pm
by strawman
W....O.....W

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:30 pm
by dreamrock
Phenopath wrote:I dont get out much, and have therefore not seen the film. But have any of you guys been feeling a little suicidal since going to the cinema?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/12/avatar_blues/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
As strawman noted ... Woooow. As a long term SF fan, I've always had that sort of "Aw, man. Being stuck on this stupid rock sucks." So, maybe these nubs are experiencing their first thin sliver of SF. Otherwise, it's kind of inexplicable. Pandora is a very thin cipher for early European settlement North America. I'd say it's a thinner cipher than most of the worlds on Star Trek. I mean, seriously, they even did the plains nations and pretty much the only thing they added was the hint that there might be some seafaring nations as well.

Well, that and the pterodactyls.

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:47 pm
by moonowl
A friend of mine just posted on my facebook that it was a chick flick!!!!!! I mean Meg Ryan wasn't in it!

Dinosaurs vs mechs and awesome pterodactyls vs helicopters. Giant 3d fireballs. What the hell? That's like an awesome cupcake with kickass frosting on top.

I bet this douche cried during Terminator because it had too much character development.

Then again, he is over 40 and still watches the newest South Park every single week and thinks its the best thing on TV. I mean come on, the potty humor has gotten really old!

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:18 am
by munsi
QUICK, MUNSI, SOMEBODY'S WRONG ON THE INTERNET!!!

....i can't help but think you're watching Dances With Smurfs beyond the way in which it's intended. Jamcam has never claimed his films were rich in "Plot" or "character", this isn't the appeal that he puts forward to be seen. he never has, and there was a time he even admitted it out loud (after all, he made Aliens the way it was because he knew he could never make a thematically appropriate sequil to Alien that'd do the film justice)

what he is, however, good at is the best possible utilization of technology to create spectacle. T2 pushed film making (in a purely technical sense) forward a decade. so did Titanic. this is the kind of film he makes, and it usually works.

(spoiler alert: due to the nature of my job, i see very few films in theaters, and due to that i've yet to see Dances With Smurfs yet. i hope to before it leaves theaters, but this post is based on arguments on previous Jamcam films and what i know about the flick already)

...if you watch Dances With Smurfs on DVD in five years, you'll be disappointed, because on a fundamental level it's disappointing. nothing much happens, and what does you could piece together from other films. if, however, you watch it right now, in 3D, ideally in IMAX, it'll make you rethink what a movie can be, just like a dozen other directors are re-thinking even as we speak. in two or three years, a half dozen films that are, technically, inspired by Dances With Smurfs, but better written will be released. but who wants to wait that long?

like i said, i've not seen the film yet, and i may not get the opportunity (if i can't see it in IMAX, i likely won't see it) but so far i've had a pretty good track record with describing Jamcam flicks without having seen them, so i'm assuming i'm right here too. it's not timeless, it's not meant to be, it's timely. and if you catch it before it dates, you'll enjoy it. such is the magic of this kind of film.

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:58 pm
by ROU Killing Time
Phenopath wrote:I dont get out much, and have therefore not seen the film. But have any of you guys been feeling a little suicidal since going to the cinema?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/12/avatar_blues/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
I think this story says more about the pervasiveness of clinical depression than it does about the movie itself. It's a pretty tough disease to manage, and I think the movie was just another thing for some of those mentioned in the story to hang their depression on. Made newsworthy because of the buzz the film is creating. The depressed get down in the mouth about a lot of other things too that aren't as interesting or topical to write about.

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:44 am
by moonowl
ROU Killing Time wrote:an it does about the movie itself.

People at work (the psych lab) were talking about this. A few of us noticed how jacked up we were after the movie and my husband felt spacy like he does after a marathon. One of them mentioned the depression cases could have something to do with "adrenaline high" too. Apparently response to adrenaline has something to do with reducing serotonin levels, and a high for long periods of time can set someone on the edge off.

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:07 am
by ROU Killing Time
moonowl wrote:
ROU Killing Time wrote:an it does about the movie itself.

People at work (the psych lab) were talking about this. A few of us noticed how jacked up we were after the movie and my husband felt spacy like he does after a marathon. One of them mentioned the depression cases could have something to do with "adrenaline high" too. Apparently response to adrenaline has something to do with reducing serotonin levels, and a high for long periods of time can set someone on the edge off.
What goes up... welll you know the rest.

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:34 am
by eric_marsh
Finally saw Avatar. In fact the credits are running now.

Boy, that was fun!

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:56 pm
by Talia
Yep I just caught it the other day. I absolutely loved it to death. I am so ready to be done with earth and run away to be Na'vi. Course there's a good chance something would eat me first, but hey. IT'S A CHANCE I'LL TAKE, OK!! :p

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:57 pm
by Mr. Tweedy
This whole thing reminds me very strongly of Star Wars: Episode 1, at least of my reaction to it. I saw "1" in the theatre no less than 5 times, and was enraptured for each of them. Granted, I was only 16 and the finely honed cynicism I now personify was still nascent, but I think that has less to do with it than with the sheer novelty of the sights on the screen. "1" was, I think, the first movie ever to feature a photorealistic fantasy world. There had been lots of fantasy movies before that, of course, but "1" was the first to do it on that scale, to make it look like a film crew had actually gone to someplace with alien pod racing and shot a movie there. And I think that's really 100% of the reason why I loved it so. I see "1" now and say (along with everyone else) "That sucks!" What changed? Well, "1" isn't novel anymore. I've seen a dozen movies that achieved the same level of fantastic authenticity (and played some games that came close), but many of those actually had good stories and characters, in addition to their spectacle.

Re: AVATAR

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:34 am
by ROU Killing Time
6 times. pfft.

I saw Star Wars, back when it was just Star Wars, (not episode 4) something like 18 times in the theater. Now THERE was a spectacle.

Ah, fond memories of the first time the Light Sabre was unsheathed, and the WOW WOULDYALOOKATTHAT mind-blowing experience the first time they leaped into hyperspace. Ok, the science was bad and in many cases the dialog was worse. The Kessel run in under 5 parsecs? That's like saying you ran the Boston Marathon in under 26 miles.

Still, the memories hold a fond place in my heart and imagination and I'm still not sure I can ever truly forgive George Lucas for eventually turning them into feature length commercials for Hasbro action figures.

I do hope to mortgage my dentures and make it out to Hyannis to see what all the hub-bub is about concerning AVATAR, however.