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A 'Superstar' like a Deity Cat Rock Opera Star.

Post by secretnude » Sat May 17, 2014 4:05 pm

On the third day
we did get back our beloved Cosmic Cat
that
I think
was in the brink
of a severe mental collapse
due to perhaps
a Multiple Personality Disorder that
from which this Deity Cat
doesn't want to recover.

We soon did discover
another
strange personality
that had a ghostly quality
in our Almighty
Cosmic Cat
that
has surprisingly gained
Deity Cat
Territory after being maimed.

This Deity Cat
maybe crazy
with three personalities
with different qualities
but this Deity Cat
has got that
Godly talent and is definitely
a 'Superstar'
like a Deity Cat
Rock Opera Star.

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Re: Secretnude's Drabble Poetry Corner

Post by strawman » Sat May 17, 2014 5:40 pm

I wonder, would it be possible to create a brain interface that would translate thoughts into written words. I'm sure it's only a matter of time.
I also wonder, is secretnude a product of the beta version?

BTW, thanks for the Comedy University stuff. The idea of spending $34,000 for a 4-year degree, only to graduate with a 2.1...
Well, don't those gotta be some proud parents?
Truly hilarious!
But anyone with a Comedy BA knew that.
Never judge anyone until you have biopsied their brain.

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A Catholic Pope and the Slippery Slope

Post by secretnude » Sun May 18, 2014 1:50 am

I was a former Catholic
and I do like the new Catholic
Pope
that some people might accuse fallaciously
of falling
into a slippery slope
of giving
hope
to us nonbelievers into getting
into Heaven
even
if we don't believe in God or Heaven.

The slippery slope
is a logical trope
that hardline conservatives
use as a preservative
to prevent 'Institutional Change'
that maybe for good or ill
and they attribute it to 'Divine Will'.

A reformist Pope
does give the world Hope
and Pascal's Wager
is a non-Wager
since I do wager
that my conscience is clearly
quite clear.
In comments likely to enhance his progressive reputation, Pope Francis has written a long, open letter to the founder of La Repubblica newspaper, Eugenio Scalfari, stating that non-believers would be forgiven by God if they followed their consciences.

Responding to a list of questions published in the paper by Mr Scalfari, who is not a Roman Catholic, Francis wrote: “You ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don’t believe and who don’t seek the faith. I start by saying – and this is the fundamental thing – that God’s mercy has no limits if you go to him with a sincere and contrite heart. The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience.

“Sin, even for those who have no faith, exists when people disobey their conscience.”

Robert Mickens, the Vatican correspondent for the Catholic journal The Tablet, said the pontiff’s comments were further evidence of his attempts to shake off the Catholic Church’s fusty image, reinforced by his extremely conservative predecessor Benedict XVI.
...
In July, Francis signalled a more progressive attitude on sexuality, asking: “If someone is gay and is looking for the Lord, who am I to judge him?”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 10062.html
Pascal's Wager is an argument in apologetic philosophy which was devised by the seventeenth-century French philosopher, mathematician, and physicist Blaise Pascal (1623–1662). It posits that humans all bet with their lives either that God exists or does not exist. Given the possibility that God actually does exist and assuming the infinite gain or loss associated with belief in God or with unbelief, a rational person should live as though God exists and seek to believe in God. If God does not actually exist, such a person will have only a finite loss (some pleasures, luxury, etc.).[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager

In logic and critical thinking, a slippery slope is a logical device, but is usually known under its fallacious form in which a person asserts that some event must inevitably follow from another without any rational argument or demonstrable mechanism for the inevitability of the event in question. A slippery slope argument states that a relatively small first step leads to a chain of related events culminating in some significant effect, much like an object given a small push over the edge of a slope sliding all the way to the bottom.[1] The strength of such an argument depends on the warrant, i.e. whether or not one can demonstrate a process that leads to the significant effect. The fallacious sense of "slippery slope" is often used synonymously with continuum fallacy, in that it ignores the possibility of middle ground and assumes a discrete transition from category A to category B. Modern usage avoids the fallacy by acknowledging the possibility of this middle ground.
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Furs come, furs served...

Post by secretnude » Sun May 18, 2014 12:17 pm

The Posthuman Furry Community
had unity
in welcoming the Furry Pet Deities
into their Furry Tribe
that I can describe
as welcoming all furs
"Furs come,
furs served".

Some Sentient Postanimals wanted hands
so you do understand
the blurring of the species line
that's now very fine
as some Posthumans also now have fur
and hands
and all the Furs
do concur
that equality between the Sentient Beings
isn't just being
nice and polite
but also quite
advantageous to their Furry Cause
because
united they stand courageous and proud
as they all
proclaim that they are all
"Furry" out loud.

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Interspecies sex that's no longer hexed

Post by secretnude » Sun May 18, 2014 12:48 pm

All in the Postsingularity
Furry Community
do tolerate
at any rate
interspecies sex
that's no longer hexed
due to advanced genetic manipulation
and advanced surgical genital manipulation.

I was dating a Bare
naked Postanimal Bear
that I do swear
does scare
Posthumans
that aren't yet used
to seeing uplifted animals use
Posthumans
for their sexual needs
that indeed
can feed
the Cosmic
Press with sensational or comic
stories
that maybe quite gory.

The Male Bear,
I do swear
doesn't care
that he is bare
and as I spoke
we did joke
about Bear "Furry nudity"
in the Postanimal Bear Community.
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In the end it depends...

Post by secretnude » Sun May 18, 2014 1:05 pm

The Bear
grinned at my bare
Bear joke
and he spoke
that the Posthuman Furs
don't need clothes
since the Fur
acts as clothing
and it's more comfortable wearing
nothing.

I told my naked Postanimal Bear friend
that in the end
it depends
on which community
you do have to fit in
and I have to fit in
both the clothed Posthuman Community
and the Furry Community.

I go naked when with Furs
at Furry Events
and it's fun
to be under the Terran Sun
naked and bare
like my bare
naked Bear Boyfriend
that I married in the end.
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Happy Worker Zombies never ever get sick.

Post by secretnude » Mon May 19, 2014 12:03 am

I forgot to take my antidepressants
into my pants
as I went to work at a Happy Burger
Branch
close to a cattle ranch.

I wondered why the Happy Burger
Management would condone murder
to acquire the 'Strange Meat'
when the Beef
is strangely cheap,
quite good to eat
and quite healthy unlike the 'Strange Meat'.

I went to grab some chill
pills
from my
pants
when I noticed that
I don't have my
antidepressants.

I called in sick
really quick
but I realized that
would make Management tick
me for 'Happysizing'
since Happy
Worker Zombies
never ever get sick.

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Strangely Happy like an unthinking Zombie.

Post by secretnude » Mon May 19, 2014 3:29 am

I made a quick escape
via the fire escape
and left the Happy Burger Branch
that's quite close to a cattle ranch.

I knew that the local press
will suppress
the news of the 'Strange Meat'
since it will defeat
efforts
to attract ad revenue
that's needed to support
the local press
which has depressed
ad revenues
of late
and has reporting
that I hate.

The local neonet
does get
viral reports
of Happy Virus
outbreaks that supports
my 'Strange Meat Hypothesis'
that if you eat
'Strange Meat'
my hypothesis
is
you may become Strangely Happy
like an unthinking Zombie.

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Happy Zombie City

Post by secretnude » Mon May 19, 2014 4:04 am

I tested my 'Strange Meat Hypothesis'
with Isis
my Cat
that's
now a Happy Zombie Cat.

The said Cat
now purrs a lot
and seems to have forgot
how to Hiss
when I do try to piss
the Cat
that's
now too Happy.

I regret turning my Cat
into a test subject
but my subject
is happy
and seems to love me more
than before.

I didn't report to the store
unlike before
since I'm not a Happy
Burger Employee
anymore.

I live off the grid
away from the traffic grid
of the City
that's now a Happy Zombie City.
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Encrypted peer to peer brain mesh networking

Post by secretnude » Mon May 19, 2014 11:43 am

Rumor has it that there's a Sentient
One Percent
left running this Happy Zombie City
that's quite far from the Planetary
Capital City
of this Forsaken Planet
that no longer gets
badly
need Terran Support
as I sadly
report
that the neonet
went dark
after dark.

The Sentient
One Percent
maybe behind the strange neonet
outage
that's quite an outrage
for those of us that gets
most of our unfiltered news from the neonet.

I resorted to encrypted peer
to peer
brain mesh networking
with anyone still sentient and near
as I do fear
that the Happy Zombies are near.

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Voices making Happy Choices to kill sad people at will

Post by secretnude » Mon May 19, 2014 11:58 am

One
by one
my Online
Peer to Peer Friends
went offline
and probably met their end
as 'Strange Meat'
that the Strangely Happy Zombies eat.

I felt utter and complete
defeat
and took my laser gun
to my head
since I may soon be gone
and it's better to be dead
than a member of the Happy Undead
or have the contents of your head
eaten by the Happy Undead.

I did dread to pull the trigger
but in the end
I pulled the trigger
as I heard Happy Zombie Voices
making Happy Choices
to kill
sad people at will.

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Take away discontent from the masses

Post by secretnude » Mon May 19, 2014 12:17 pm

I'm a member
of Demeter's
Sentient
Ruling One Percent
and we engineered the recent
Happy Zombie Outbreak
that did take
place in some of Demeter Cities
that are now Happy Zombie Cities.

The Planetary
Capital City
is the only City
on the Planet
Demeter that's still
in Planetary
Government Control
and we do control
the City Drone Patrols
in some Happy Zombie Cities.

We thought that this Happy
Zombie
Outbreak
was a great way
to take
away
discontent from the masses
as we kick the asses
of the Planetary Intelligentsia that
I do recall
has a number that's
quite small.
“Religion is the opium of the people“ (with no ellipses to indicate that something has been removed). Sometimes “Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature“ is included. If you compare these with the full quotation, it’s clear that a great deal more is being said than what most people are aware of.

In the above quotation Marx is saying that religion’s purpose is to create illusory fantasies for the poor. Economic realities prevent them from finding true happiness in this life, so religion tells them that this is OK because they will find true happiness in the next life. Although this is a criticism of religion, Marx is not without sympathy: people are in distress and religion provides solace, just as people who are physically injured receive relief from opiate-based drugs.

The quote is not, then, as negative as most portray (at least about religion). In some ways, even the slightly extended quote which people might see is a bit dishonest because saying “Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature...” deliberately leaves out the additional statement that it is also the “heart of a heartless world.”

What we have is a critique of society that has become heartless rather than of religion which tries to provide a bit of solace. One can argue that Marx offers a partial validation of religion in that it tries to become the heart of a heartless world. For all its problems, religion doesn’t matter so much — it is not the real problem. Religion is a set of ideas, and ideas are expressions of material realities. Religion is a symptom of a disease, not the disease itself.

Still, it would be a mistake to think that Marx is uncritical towards religion — it may try to provide heart, but it fails. For Marx, the problem lies in the obvious fact that an opiate drug fails to fix a physical injury — it merely helps you forget pain and suffering. This may be fine up to a point, but only as long as you are also trying to solve the underlying problems causing the pain. Similarly, religion does not fix the underlying causes of people’s pain and suffering — instead, it helps them forget why they are suffering and gets them to look forward to an imaginary future when the pain will cease.

Even worse, this “drug” is administered by the same oppressors who are responsible for the pain and suffering in the first place.
http://atheism.about.com/od/weeklyquotes/a/marx01.htm
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Religion is a Happy Virus

Post by secretnude » Mon May 19, 2014 12:28 pm

In his fascinating book, The Religion Virus, Craig A. James bravely sets out to apply meme theory to an understanding of a subject that preoccupies humanists—the evolution of religion. I believe he succeeds. Even if meme theory has no scientific basis, James shows that it can serve as a practical tool to help explain much in the ways of human civilization, which is the source of behavioral raw material for the social sciences (history, psychology, sociology, anthropology, education theory, etc.)

In James we have a gifted writer who provides a vivid overview about how Western religion evolved from the pre-Israelite polytheists (circa 1800 BCE) to the time of Jesus and beyond to the spread of viral Christianity in the colonial era and to the present day. This is not a heavy-handed scholarly work with too much information for practical-minded humanists. Instead it’s an insightful story, told with the aid of easily understood memes that appeal to our commonsense instincts about the role religion has played in our history. While the author briefly and elegantly explains the power of meme theory (memetics) he mostly writes compelling historical narrative and humanist social critique around a short set of memes that he defines, and that breathe life into how religious ideas propagate for better and for worse.

James describes the evolution of humanity’s attitudes about God and assesses their influence and impact on the social order. He ingeniously applies Dawkins’ proposal of memes as mental constructs that continue to mutate in response to the social environment, analogous to how genetic DNA mutates in response to the changing physical environment. Memes often refer to specific beliefs and attitudes that may start and end in a given person, or that may propagate in the human population much as viruses and bacteria, whether harmful, helpful, or benign until they mutate or die out. For example, in his narrative of the evolution of core religious beliefs from the time of the Abraham myth (circa 1900-1800 BCE) to the time of Jesus, James assigns the following meme names for a progression of religious beliefs and attitudes in the turbulent world of the Greeks, Romans, and Jews that produced Christianity: polytheism; tolerance; general purpose gods; monotheism; intolerance; abstract god; globalization; guilt; heaven and hell; proselytism; and Armageddon.

Having defined a meme taxonomy suitable to his task, James provides a cogent characterization of how people evolved their ideas about a single god who demands absolute loyalty. Examples include ancient Egypt’s Pharaoh Akhenaten, who in the fourteenth century BCE established the worship of a single sun god, a meme that did not survive after his death. The Old Testament story of ancient Israel’s god describes Jehovah as evolving from just one of many gods (circa 1300 BCE) to become the most powerful of gods (circa 700 BCE), and finally to the only God of the universe (circa 450 BCE). James encourages us to probe deeper when he writes:

I hope that I’ve created an anti-religion memeplex, a sort of “inoculation” against the religion virus. The goal, which I share with many atheists, and also many deists and thoughtful members of many of the newer liberal churches, is to clear the ideosphere of the harmful religion viruses that plague modern humankind. By exposing the roots of the religion virus, my hope is to weaken its grip on humanity.

I fully support James’ goal, and have been advocating much the same since I joined the humanist movement. I would stress even further that the religion virus is indeed harmful, in order to remove the appearance of mixed messages regarding humanism’s attitude towards harmless “deists and thoughtful members of many of the newer liberal churches.”

While the book mainly focuses on how religion went viral, in the chapter titled “The Atheist’s Paradox,” James introduces some ideas about why atheism (as a key element of humanism) seems to lag in its viral power. “Atheists might be roughly divided into two groups,” he writes. “The ‘Live and Let Live Atheists’ who feel that religion is misguided but harmless, and the ‘Anti-Religion Atheists’ who believe religion is harmful.” In contemplating why religious faith, if indeed it is useless or destructive, hasn’t gone extinct he offers the following commonsense answer: “It is entirely possible for something to be harmful to the species, or to society, yet still be favored by evolution.”
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Post by strawman » Mon May 19, 2014 8:51 pm

How about the anti-religious believers? I once met an unknowable all-powerful being who said, "My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways my ways." So I figured that religion is an attempt to get around that. Ineffable means ineffable, dammit!
But then who was the object of my experience? Maybe it's simply "I AM"?
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Memes are memes but some memes maybe harmful

Post by secretnude » Mon May 19, 2014 9:46 pm

strawman wrote:How about the anti-religious believers? I once met an unknowable all-powerful being who said, "My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways my ways." So I figured that religion is an attempt to get around that. Ineffable means ineffable, dammit!
But then who was the object of my experience? Maybe it's simply "I AM"?
“Why, I can't help wondering, is God thought to need such ferocious
defence? One might have supposed him amply capable of looking
after himself.”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion
I'm glad to live a life free
of the
fear and guilt that Religion
has a tendency to make an imposition
despite being born into a Religion
that does make such impositions.

It's my position
that Religion
maybe a harmful meme
as it seems
to polarize our society into extremes.

Fundamentalists may want to wage
their Holy Wars
that may rage
in Holy Lands
both in historical and in present times
but I understand
that at times
Religion maybe good
but right now I seem to be in a debating mood.

The Fundamentalist Right
always thinks that they are right.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”

― Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de M. de Voltaire
Faith is fear.

Religion is the systematic marketing of fear.

Blessed are the poor (donate heavily). Blessed are the meek (obey). Blessed are the humble (don’t question authority). Blessed are the hungry (make us rich while you starve). Blessed are the merciful (if you catch us doing something wrong, let it go). Blessed are the pure of heart (switch off your brain). Blessed are the timid, the cowardly, the fearful. Blessed are those who give us their power and become our slaves. Muahahaha!

That’s the kind of nonsense religion pushes on people. They train you to turn your back on courage, strength, and conscious living. This is stupidity, not divinity.

Religion will teach you to fear being different, to fear standing up for yourself, and to fear being an independent thinker. It will erode your self-trust by explaining why you’re unable to successfully manage life on your own terms: You are unworthy. You’re a sinner. You’re unclean. You belong to a lesser caste. You are not enlightened. Of course the solution is always the same — submit to the will of an external authority. Believe that you’re inadequate. Give away your power. Follow their rules and procedures. Live in fear for the rest of your life, and hope it will all turn out okay in the end.

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2008/0 ... -religion/
The Selfish Gene (1976), the evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins used the term meme to describe a unit of human cultural transmission analogous to the gene, arguing that replication also happens in culture, albeit in a different sense. Ted Cloak had briefly outlined a similar hypothesis in 1975, which Dawkins referenced. Cultural evolution itself is a much older topic, with a history that dates back to Darwin's era.

Dawkins (1976) contended that the meme is a unit of information residing in the brain and is the mutating replicator in human cultural evolution. It is a pattern that can influence its surroundings – that is, it has causal agency – and can propagate. This created great debate among sociologists, biologists, and scientists of other disciplines, because Dawkins himself did not provide a sufficient explanation of how the replication of units of information in the brain controls human behaviour and ultimately culture, since the principal topic of the book was genetics. Dawkins apparently did not intend to present a comprehensive theory of memetics in The Selfish Gene, but rather coined the term meme in a speculative spirit. Accordingly, the term "unit of information" came to be defined in different ways by many scientists.
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An Intolerant God may make Intolerant Followers

Post by secretnude » Mon May 19, 2014 11:19 pm

Western Religions
rooted in the Abrahamic Tradition
have a Tradition
of being Monotheistic
and Dogmatic
as opposed
to what I suppose
are less Dogmatic
and Polytheistic
Eastern Religions.

More Holy Wars
so far
have been waged by the Monotheistic
Abrahamic
Religions
than less Dogmatic Religions
probably
for historical reasons
but possibly
due to the fact
that the unyielding Dogmatic 'facts'
of the Abrahamic Faiths
may have sealed historical fate.

A Religion that doesn't even tolerate
another God at any rate
does speak of some sort of hate
that one might project
to those that reject
the aforementioned Faith's
proselytizing
project.
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The God that doesn't even want a consort

Post by secretnude » Tue May 20, 2014 2:55 am

The Book of Jeremiah, written circa 628 BC, possibly refers to Asherah when it uses the title "Queen of Heaven", stating: "pray thou not for this people...the children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the Queen of Heaven, and to pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."(Hebrew: לִמְלֶכֶת הַשָּׁמַיִם‎) in Jer 7:18 and Jer 44:17–19, 25
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah

A Mother Goddess
maybe more preferable
to the terrible
old Testament God
that doesn't even want a consort
and had his Prophets
retort
the Jews to not worship
this Goddess
that isn't hip.

I do wonder how much Women's Rights
and Gay Rights
had
bad
times due to the sad
termination of the worship
of the unhip
'Queen
of Heaven'
that could be seen
even
in Biblical Text.

What is the purpose 'Sex'
in a Male Deity
without a Female Deity?

The Deity
might as well be asexual
given the tendency
of the historically
ruling homophobic Patriarchy
to vilify sexuality.
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'Death to the Infidels!!!'

Post by secretnude » Tue May 20, 2014 3:21 am

Religion should become less Dogmatic
and more Pragmatic
as people become enlightened.

The Rationalist Project
that was the subject
of the Enlightenment
isn't yet complete
and will probably never be completed.

Religion
had
it's sad victims and
it's quite sad
that I had
a bad
time at school for being brave
enough to declare that I don't need
to be saved.

The World
may need
to be saved
from Religious Fundamentalists of all stripes
that might want to wipe
some 'Infidels'
off this World
as they seek the Illusory World
after death
as they wish on Infidels
a terrible death.
"Be Authentically Weird and be Weird
enough to be in a Category of One."

"It's time to shake up staid traditions
in favor of strange experimentation."

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My Karma ran over your Christian Dogma

Post by secretnude » Tue May 20, 2014 10:58 am

Eastern Karma
may beat Western Dogma
in my book
except for the mystical kook
of rebirth
and reincarnation
which forms their basis for damnation.

The lack of rigidity
or flexibility
of Eastern Faiths
I do hate
less than the rigid set of Religious Doctrines
that might as well belong to the latrine
of Western Religions
that are prevalent in my region.

The inflexibility
of the Catholic Church
on matters
like contraception
does matter
in Catholic Third World Nations
with booming populations.

I also find it distasteful that the Church
sometimes interferes
in Secular Politics
with the Politics
of Religious Fear.
“My karma ran over your dogma.”

The play on words carries the implication that dogma, often viewed as rigid and unyielding, is somehow trumped by what’s perceived as a more free-flowing system of karma. While I find the play on words amusing, it’s not a very accurate way to understand karma and dogma.

Karma is a foundational concept or law about actions. It’s found in several Eastern religions including Hinduism, Buddhism, and Sikhism. In its simple form, karma is the belief that actions are part of a cycle of cause and effect. Good deeds lead to positive benefits and bad deeds result in negative consequences.

Dogma is a particular belief or doctrine held by a particular religion. Because of the formulation of creeds, dogma is often associated with Christianity. However, dogma is part of all religions and individual spiritualities because dogma is nothing more than the articulation of a belief. In other words, karma is dogma: it’s a statement of belief about individual behavior.

We’re generally familiar with members of Western religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) who are very rigid when it comes to their respective dogma. The dogmatic purity (or their version of it) is often unreasonable when compared to proven fact or positions supported by evidence. Rigid beliefs often become the foundation of prejudice, oppression, hatred, and wars.

...

My point is this: clinging to any belief or belief system with rigidity is fundamentally out of balance and unhealthy for the individual and, ultimately, for society. It doesn’t matter whether that belief or belief system is rooted in a religious tradition or is an eclectic set of beliefs developed by an individual.

...
Rigidity in beliefs, needing to be “more right” than others, is often rooted in fear.
http://blog.loukavar.com/2012/08/31/karma-vs-dogma/
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enough to be in a Category of One."

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Re: Secretnude's Drabble Poetry Corner

Post by strawman » Tue May 20, 2014 11:17 am

Congratulations. You have convinced me that the strawman religion is false.

But if 'I AM' IS ἀγάπη (the willingness to suffer without the desire to retaliate; the willingness to serve without asking in return), then materialist arguments about God's existence sound like a defense mechanism for self-centeredness.
Never judge anyone until you have biopsied their brain.

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Spoiler:
Non sum qualis eram = "I am not who I will be"

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