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India is Great...

Post by secretnude » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:56 am

Rig Veda, the oldest of the Vedas, deals with a lot of skepticism when dealing with the fundamental question of a creator God and the creation of the universe. It does not, at many instances, categorically accept the existence of a creator God. Nasadiya Sukta (Creation Hymn) in the tenth chapter of the Rig Veda states:[10][11]

Whence was it produced? Whence is this creation?
The gods came afterwards, with the creation of this universe.

The Brihadaranyaka, Isha, Mundaka (in which Brahman is everything and "no-thing") and especially Chandogya Upanishads have also been interpreted as atheistic because of their stress on the subjective self.[12]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism_in_Hinduism
India will become a superpower in the 21st century. As an example, he states that due to India's functional institutions of democracy and its relatively corruption-free society, it will emerge as a desirable, entrepreneurial and resource and energy-efficient superpower in the near future. He predicts that by 2015 India will overtake China to be the fastest growing economy in the world and emerge as a full-fledged economic superpower by 2025.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_superpowers

I have respect too for the Hindu Faith
that has doctrinal
diversity that at any rate
can doctrinally
accommodate
having no Deity
unlike Dogmatic Christianity.

The fact that there are poor ignorant Hindus
maybe due to more the Caste
System that the Hindus
find hard to cast
aside
and besides
the Great Nation of India
seems now to vie for Superpower Status
while America
just might lose that Status

Hopefully, India
with its Democratic Traditions
will serve as a counterweight to China
with Confucian Traditions
to have deference to Authority
to have order when that Authority
may soon be Chinese.
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Keeping watch at the Watchtower

Post by secretnude » Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:30 am

In the Generation
Comet Ship Redemption
the naked crew
in the Cometary Watchtower
didn't screw
with around the power
of the powerful
fusion engines that did make loud
sounds
as the Comet did accelerate,
you see,
at a comfortable
rate
of only 1 g.

It was capable
of faster rates
of acceleration that at any rate
the awake naked inhabitants
might just tolerate
and forgive but the Christian thing
is not to bring
harm to any living thing
including
flocks of sheep
that are in cryogenic sleep.

Most of the humans in this hip
Generation ship
are in cryogenic sleep.

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Body of Christ

Post by secretnude » Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:44 am

There was the Sacred Rite
of Holy Communion
that the Righteous
People of the Holy Worm in my opinion
do gross out
most observers without
a doubt.

Communion
involves eating the Body of Christ
but Christ
in this case is a Living Holy Worm
that worms
into your mouth
and into your Heart without
a doubt.

The People in the Watchtower
did the Communion Rite
and it was right
about the time
that a proximity alert
alerted
the inhabitants
without pants
that an asteroid might
hit their mighty
Holy Ship.

A few course corrections
prevented damnation
of this Holy Nation.

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Our Weapon is the Word of God

Post by secretnude » Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:01 pm

Over the Cometary Ship
intercom the astrogator quipped
that he begs for forgiveness for the lapse
in fulfilling his duties perhaps
and perhaps
not all should participate
in the Holy Mass at any rate
given the weight
of his fine
Divine
duties.

He was forgiven
since that was the Christian thing
even
if disaster to the Ship
he almost did bring.

This Ship
has no weapons
except the 'Word of God'
that the inhabitants
without pants
do believe is a fine weapon
against hostile Godless
Aliens unless
God
wills
them to be killed
and would be indeed God's
unquestionable will.
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Re: Secretnude's Drabble Poetry Corner

Post by strawman » Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:17 pm

It seems like you stayed up all night on this stuff. Well, maybe all day since you're on the other side of the ball. Reminds me of the red meat study. The miracle is when the vegetarians do a study where red meat DOESN'T cause cancer.
Please.

A holy man was once asked if he believed in miracles. He answered that it depended where you're from. "In your country, a miracle is when God does what you ask. Here, it is when we do what He asks."

The studies you site remind me of the show Mythbusters, where the host shows how psychics bend spoons.
Prayers of "Petition", "asking God to do things" may be the concept of prayer that skeptics have. But prayer that is centering, meditation, Thanksgiving, Praise, the Serenity prayer seeking acceptance, courage and wisdom, are the bulk of what I do, and make a big difference to outcomes. As you know, the primary prayer asks that Father's will, and not ours be done.

Concerning the green industry, that's where science becomes faith as I see it. It just happens that, in it's name, politicians assume the "responsibility" to redirect private resources to their political donors in the name of science. Politicians are not scientists. They are always and everywhere singlemindedly about the acquisition of power. So they call it "public service" as they divide up the spoils.

I have heard about the corruption of the Marcos family. It is nothing compared to a group of politicians riding the white horse to save the planet. How else do you divert the majority of your corn production from food to ethanol in the name of greenhouse emissions, doubling the cost of food, and discover after the fact that you just made the emissions problem WORSE, but you cannot undo the program, because of the deals you made with your agribusiness contributors, who are in fact pressing you to INCREASE the program.

This is guaranteed to increase poverty, and poverty is the primary cause of inefficient energy use. Superstition certainly has its place in the self-described scientific community. If a scientist has an unorthodox opinion, he will be excommunicated, and lose his position, because the scientific orthodoxy is enforced by the Office of the Inquisition, the totalitarian money machine whose promise is "Better Living Through Bureaucracy".

This is the religion of the 21st century. Where is the skepticism about its superstition and blind faith?
It calls itself "science", but the wolf likes to dress in wool, no?
Never judge anyone until you have biopsied their brain.

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Most Scientists in General 'love to be proven wrong'

Post by secretnude » Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:36 pm

It's natural that Scientific Orthodoxies
exists but a Scientific Orthodoxy
is easier to overturn
than a Religious Orthodoxy
that's almost impossible to overturn.

Overturning
an existing Scientific Orthodoxy
is what's called a Scientific Revolution
and we had many Scientific Revolutions.

Money does drive Science
but many Scientists
do go into Science
to search for Scientific Facts
and the facts
are what Science
is all about
without a doubt.

Many researchers
are poor
especially in a poor
country and do research
for the thirst to be immortal
by being published in a Scientific Journal
that's reviewed by your peers
without fear.
Feynman paused, removed his left hand from his coat pocket, and strode back over to the lectern to briefly peruse some notes. He then launched right back into his sermon.

“If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong,” he asserted, craning his neck forward and adroitly pointing his left hand at the chalkboard to accentuate the point. “In that simple statement, is the key to science.”

“It doesn’t make any difference how beautiful your guess is,” Feynman proclaimed, gesticulating in wide, circular, somewhat flamboyant motions. “It doesn’t make any difference how smart you are, who made the guess, or what his name is. If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. That’s all there is to it.”

Feynman was absolutely right.

A good scientist must be willing to be wrong. Such an inclination is liberating, for it allows him or her to investigate potential answers — however unlikely they may be — to the difficult questions
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/gue ... ing-wrong/
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Jesus would love Humble Atheist Richard Feynman

Post by secretnude » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:02 pm

Science is about suspending
any presumption
of knowing
you have all the answers
unlike most Religions that presumes
it has all the answers.

Science is more humble
and Feynman was humble
even if in reality he was a great man.

Jesus would love such a man
and probability take Feynman
over many Roman
Catholics even if Feynman
is an Atheist.

Sure, not all Scientists
can live to such standards
like Christians
but Feynman
was humble even without Christ.

Such humility
is to be admired and Science promotes humility
since Science
is comfortable with uncertainty
unlike Religion
that boast of certainty.
Although born to and raised by parents who were Ashkenazi, Feynman was not only an atheist,[51] but declined to be labelled Jewish on supposedly "ethnic" grounds. He routinely refused to be included in lists or books that classified people by race.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman
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Not all Scientific Journals are created equal

Post by secretnude » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:29 pm

strawman wrote: If a scientist has an unorthodox opinion, he will be excommunicated, and lose his position, because the scientific orthodoxy is enforced by the Office of the Inquisition, the totalitarian money machine whose promise is "Better Living Through Bureaucracy".

This is the religion of the 21st century. Where is the skepticism about its superstition and blind faith?
It calls itself "science", but the wolf likes to dress in wool, no?
A Scientist
is thus humble
and very much able
to accept that a favored hypothesis
is wrong.

It's quite wrong
to pass judgement on Science
based on the Non-Scientific acts
of those that disregard the facts.

They may not be practicing Science
and thus enter the realm of Pseudoscience.

The quality
of Published Science
does vary
and the top tier Science Journals
are almost always reviewed
by the very
best
such that in my view
it's the best
approximation
we have of what can be known
that can still be wrong
but confidence level that it's right
is quite
strong.
Journal ranking is widely used in academic circles in the evaluation of an academic journal's impact and quality. Journal rankings are intended to reflect the place of a journal within its field, the relative difficulty of being published in that journal, and the prestige associated with it. They have been recently introduced as official research evaluation tools in some countries such as Norway, Australia and France.[1]

Impact factor – Reflecting the average number of citations to articles published in science and social science journals.
Eigenfactor – A rating of the total importance of a scientific journal according to the number of incoming citations, with citations from highly ranked journals weighted to make a larger contribution to the eigenfactor than those from poorly ranked journals.
SCImago Journal Rank – A measure of scientific influence of scholarly journals that accounts for both the number of citations received by a journal and the importance or prestige of the journals where such citations come from.
h-index – Usually used as a measure of scientific productivity and the scientific impact of an individual scientist, but can also be used to rank journals.
Expert survey – A score reflecting the overall quality and/or contribution of a journal is based on the results of the survey of active field researchers, practitioners and students (i.e., actual journal contributors and/or readers), who rank each journal based on specific criteria.[2]
Publication power approach (PPA) – The ranking position of each journal is based on the actual publishing behavior of leading tenured academics over an extended time period. As such, the journal’s ranking position reflects the frequency at which these scholars published their articles in this journal.[3][4]
Altmetrics – Rate journals based on scholarly references added to academic social media sites.[5]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journal_ranking
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Political Science

Post by secretnude » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:11 pm

strawman wrote:Concerning the green industry, that's where science becomes faith as I see it. It just happens that, in it's name, politicians assume the "responsibility" to redirect private resources to their political donors in the name of science. Politicians are not scientists. They are always and everywhere singlemindedly about the acquisition of power. So they call it "public service" as they divide up the spoils.

I have heard about the corruption of the Marcos family. It is nothing compared to a group of politicians riding the white horse to save the planet. How else do you divert the majority of your corn production from food to ethanol in the name of greenhouse emissions, doubling the cost of food, and discover after the fact that you just made the emissions problem WORSE, but you cannot undo the program, because of the deals you made with your agribusiness contributors, who are in fact pressing you to INCREASE the program.
If the Public elects Scientists
or the truly Scientifically
Literate
the quality of debate
in your much hated
Senate
and Congress at any rate
would improve
but might prove
impossible
due to the possible
dogmatic
and automatic
opposition
of those with Fundamentalist Religions.

Maybe better Scientific Education
for the Lawyers and Political Scientists
is a must today
and I do say
being a Political Scientist
does sound Unscientific
like being a Marxist.

Political Science
is an observational
and not an experimental
Science
and is thus a Soft Science
and not a Hard Science
unlike Physics, Chemistry, Biology,
Geology
and Astronomy.
in all aspects of politics, observations in controlled environments are often challenging to reproduce or duplicate, though experimental methods are increasingly common (see experimental political science).[8] Citing this difficulty, former American Political Science Association President Lawrence Lowell once said "We are limited by the impossibility of experiment. Politics is an observational, not an experimental science."[9] Because of this, political scientists have historically observed political elites, institutions, and individual or group behavior in order to identify patterns, draw generalizations, and build theories of politics.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_science
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Making Political Science a Hard Science

Post by secretnude » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:44 pm

Maybe AI computer simulations
of People and Nations
and Geopolitical Situations
will make Political Science
a Hard Science.

I pity the AI Simulations
that we will torment with various utopian
schemes
that in the end would seem
to be actually dystopian.

Assuming that the AI Simulations
do act and feel like Humans
do we might as well be harming Humans
even if they are just AI Simulations
simulating
a Political Situation.

Political Science
thus maybe
a perpetually
Soft Science
unless we allow experimentation
on AI Simulations
of Humans
that are truly Human
that might make us Inhumane
to AI Simulations.
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Re: Secretnude's Drabble Poetry Corner

Post by strawman » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:39 pm

When I call myself a Christian, my definition is that I am a follower of Jesus, whose primary teaching was to love one another as I loved you. To love your enemy, bless those that curse you. His teachings are clear. Jesus wasn't a Creationist, didn't persecute Galileo or force anyone to do anything, and the only people he condemned were scribes and pharisees, the religious experts. Those things were anti-Christian corruptions and perversions that human beings, by virtue of their being human, imposed on Christianity in the third and 4th centuries, at the same time that Christianity changed from a persecuted cult to the officially approved religion, and politicians ever since, and always, use whatever tools are available to gain power.

Two thousand years ago, 'Christianity' turned into a tool. That is not the Christianity that I espouse.
We both hold the scientific method in high regard. What I am saying is that science is like Christianity in that human beings are still human beings, politicians are still politicians, culture is still culture. Scienctific Method is the popular religion of well educated people.

I am saying that the popular science that many people are following isn't really scientific at all... that scientists who do not conform (just as Galileo didn't comform!) will be dealt with as Galileo, because they challenge powerful interests whose motives are grounded in a desire for power, and call the perversion 'scientific'.

It seems plain to me. No matter where you go, there you are. Whether you focus on religion or science, there YOU are, perverting first the one, and then the other. Gee, what COULD the problem be?

People can argue over anything if they don't understand whether or not they are talking about different things.

Your problem with religion is fundamentally not with jesus or his teachings, but with the human perversion of it.
My problem with 'science' is with the self-interestedness that perverts science into a tool for control.
Remember that Christianity was peer reviewed, and its adherents were convinced that it was "Self Correcting" too.

How does the fact that you have a modern and improved Ideal change you into a more modern and improved homo sapiens? Where is the evidence that it does?

Re our discussion of miracles, I'm interested in your theory about star-dust waking up. Or was that 'miraculous'?
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Evangelical Environmentalism

Post by secretnude » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:50 pm

Science
isn't faith
but the 'misapplication of Science'
or 'Bad Technologies' maybe faith
and hence Pseudoscience.

Pseudoscience
doesn't allow itself to be proven wrong like Religious Faith
and quite unlike
real Science.

Your problem is really more with Politics
than Science
since unbiased Environmental Science
does tell us that the programs
don't work yet Politicians
persist with the Programs.

The Environmental Lobby
does have Religious Zeal
and I feel
that they do lobby
to save us all
much like Christians
as I recall.

The Evangelical
nature of Christianity
may have been the template
that Evangelical
Environmentalism
copied at any rate.
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Post by strawman » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:12 pm

Each set of assumptions builds on the previous layer.
I wish I had a word like Pseudochristianity that excused all the human failings to keep Christianity from losing its virginity.
The last President of Harvard had to resign because of un-PC scientific comments. It isn't just environmentalists. Everyone with an agenda, from self-proclaimed feminists to the Sexual Identity and Racial Identity Cults is chasing the Science bandwagon. God forbid (excuse the expression) anyone should scientifically study IQ differences in different racial groups. The few who did were thrown into a volcano. The scientific community stands silently by. Volcanos for nonconformists is called an 'object lesson'. Scientists aren't stupid.

There is a good reason for pseudoscience. It's an effective tool.
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Jesus would be very sad

Post by secretnude » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:23 pm

Evolution
explains much of man's limitations
and capacity for creation.

Maybe Dolphins and Chimps
are sentient too
since in my view
they aren't mental wimps.

We don't need to appeal
I feel
to the fine
hand
of the Divine
that might not exist
or only in our imaginations do exist.

I like Jesus too
but in my view
there's much disagreement
among people that should be in agreement
that believe in Jesus.

Jesus
would be sad
at how bad
the Christians
are to other Christians.

I never claimed
to be morally superior but many Christians
do make that dubious claim.
strawman wrote:Two thousand years ago, 'Christianity' turned into a tool. That is not the Christianity that I espouse.
We both hold the scientific method in high regard. What I am saying is that science is like Christianity in that human beings are still human beings, politicians are still politicians, culture is still culture. Scienctific Method is the popular religion of well educated people.

I am saying that the popular science that many people are following isn't really scientific at all... that scientists who do not conform (just as Galileo didn't comform!) will be dealt with as Galileo, because they challenge powerful interests whose motives are grounded in a desire for power, and call the perversion 'scientific'.

It seems plain to me. No matter where you go, there you are. Whether you focus on religion or science, there YOU are, perverting first the one, and then the other. Gee, what COULD the problem be?

People can argue over anything if they don't understand whether or not they are talking about different things.

Your problem with religion is fundamentally not with jesus or his teachings, but with the human perversion of it.

How does the fact that you have a modern and improved Ideal change you into a more modern and improved homo sapiens? Where is the evidence that it does?

Re our discussion of miracles, I'm interested in your theory about star-dust waking up. Or was that 'miraculous'?
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Post by strawman » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:26 pm

Ironic that his last prayer in Jn17 "may they be one, Father, that the world may believe that you sent me". That does seem to be the problem.
Most people who consider themselves anti-Christian are not anti-Christ in particular, but against what religious groups have done with him.

So, what is your theory about how ordinary molecules became self-aware?
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Outwit, OutPlay, Outlast... We are all Survivors

Post by secretnude » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:17 am

“Man is by nature a social animal; an individual who is unsocial naturally and not accidentally is either beneath our notice or more than human. Society is something that precedes the individual. Anyone who either cannot lead the common life or is so self-sufficient as not to need to, and therefore does not partake of society, is either a beast or a god. ”

― Aristotle, Politics
Human Beings are Social Animals
and the bigger the Social Groups
a Social Animal
has to socially manage
the larger the Brain
actually manages
to be since Brains
don't come in for free.

Animal Brains
consume much energy
and some species trade less Brains
more energy
spent on Reproductive Activities.
(Balls vs. Brains)

Homo Sapiens
had to evolve such big Brains
to be more Social
to Survive against less Social
Hominids
that Homo Sapiens
had Outwitted,
Outplayed
and Outlasted.

Play
is pretty much part of being
a Social Being
and Human Beings
do play
a lot with other Humans Beings.
boosted smarts came at a price—the big-brained fish developed smaller guts and produced fewer offspring. Brains are expensive energy-guzzling organs. Ours, for example, make up just 2 percent of our body weight but consume 20 percent of our energy. Many scientists think that to pay for our larger brains, we had to scale back other parts of our bodies like our guts or fat stores, and that’s exactly what Kotrschal found in his guppies.
http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com ... ig-brains/
neocortex volume in primates has been correlated with social group size, social skills, mating success, tactical deception, social intelligence and more, while in birds, the volume of the forebrain has been correlated with innovation frequency, invasion success, social complexity, food hoarding, bower complexity
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1766390/
Sigmund Freud (1958) suggested that every child at play “behaves like a creative writer, in that he creates a world of his own, or, rather, rearranges the things of his world in a new way which pleases him. . . . The creative writer does the same as the child at play. He creates a world of phantasy which he takes very seriously—that is, which he invests with large amounts of emotion” (pp. 143–144).
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Strange Loops and the Human Brain Boot Up

Post by secretnude » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:42 am

the brain has the capacity of storing and executing different programs, and the brain’s switching between programs explains its versatility. It is quite a strong thesis: of all the things we observe, only brains and computers exhibit such seemingly endless ability to switch between tasks and acquire new skills. Presumably, there are few if any other systems whose behavior is explained in terms of (this type of) program execution.
http://www.umsl.edu/~piccininig/Computa ... nalism.htm

The software based Self
develops itself
bootstrapping from Organic Mental Hardware
to gradually become Self-Aware.

We are aware
of people with Brain Damage
due to age
or incidental
or perhaps intentional
damage to the Mental
Hardware
that they are no longer Self-Aware.

We pass through Developmental
Mental
stages
as we age
that makes us who we are
and what we are.

People love to tell
stories
and it's the stories
that we continually tell
and retell
to ourselves
that develops the self.

A machine that can develop its Self
in a similar manner
may indeed develop self-awareness
outside Brain matter.
We are not born with an ‘I’ – the ego emerges only gradually as experience shapes our dense web of active symbols into a tapestry rich and complex enough to begin twisting back upon itself. According to this view the psychological ‘I’ is a narrative fiction, something created only from intake of symbolic data and its own ability to create stories about itself from that data. The consequence is that a perspective (a mind) is a culmination of a unique pattern of symbolic activity in our nervous systems, which suggests that the pattern of symbolic activity that makes identity, that constitutes subjectivity, can be replicated within the brains of others, and perhaps even in artificial brains.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_a_Strange_Loop
A simple definition of consciousness is sensory awareness of the body, the self, and the world. The fetus may be aware of the body, for example by perceiving pain. It reacts to touch, smell, and sound, and shows facial expressions responding to external stimuli. However, these reactions are probably preprogrammed and have a subcortical nonconscious origin. Furthermore, the fetus is almost continuously asleep and unconscious partially due to endogenous sedation. Conversely, the newborn infant can be awake, exhibit sensory awareness, and process memorized mental representations. It is also able to differentiate between self and nonself touch, express emotions, and show signs of shared feelings. Yet, it is unreflective, present oriented, and makes little reference to concept of him/herself. Newborn infants display features characteristic of what may be referred to as basic consciousness and they still have to undergo considerable maturation to reach the level of adult consciousness. The preterm infant, ex utero, may open its eyes and establish minimal eye contact with its mother. It also shows avoidance reactions to harmful stimuli. However, the thalamocortical connections are not yet fully established, which is why it can only reach a minimal level of consciousnes
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19092726
Do entertaining stories make us more ethical? “The only way to find out is to do the science,” Gottschall says, reasonably enough, and then announces that “the constant firing of our neurons in response to fictional stimuli strengthens and refines the neural pathways that lead to skillful navigation of life’s problems” and that the studies show that therefore people who read a lot of novels have better social and empathetic abilities, are more skillful navigators, than those who don’t. He insists that storytelling is adaptive, on strictly Darwinian terms, but surely this would only have meaning if he could show that there were human-like groups who failed to compete because they didn’t trade tales
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/b ... entry-more
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Everybody lies

Post by secretnude » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:44 am

Everybody Lies is House's credo, and usually governs House's diagnostic technique and personal life. It is a phrase constantly used in the show in many contexts, particularly when a very unlikely diagnosis would only make sense if someone were not telling the truth.

House's credo often gives him good guidance, as in many episodes the underlying diagnosis is often lacking either because someone has lied outright without provocation, has lied when asked about a possible source of the disease directly (particularly sexual infidelity) or did not disclose a particularly important fact that they thought was unimportant or too embarrassing.

However, even House agrees that his credo has its limits. He notes that people will only lie for a good reason, and that many people will lie only in some extreme situation that they feel is incredibly important. He also has identified two individuals who almost never lie, his father and Dr. Cameron. This is not to say that House sees honesty as a weakness. Where House uses lies and manipulation to get his way with patients, Cameron uses empathy and forthrightness and can sometimes get the same results. House also trusts his ex-girlfriend Stacy implicitly, in one case preferring to believe her rather than her sick husband. When Cameron challenged him by asking "whatever happened to everybody lies?", House answered "I was lying when I said that".

House also has another important credo - the symptoms never lie. However, even he agreed that they sometimes do.
http://house.wikia.com/wiki/Everybody_lies

Everybody lies
as Dr. House said.

Maybe we are all liars
as we are said
to deceive
and modify what we perceive
to fit our expectations.

The expectations
for a Scientific Researcher
for Honesty is indeed higher
since any other
Scientist can dispute
and refute
the Experimental Data
and/ or Experimental Protocols
and/ or Experimental Controls.

Other fields of Human endeavor
do endeavor
to deceive
what we perceive
since most Religions
maybe mostly self-deception
with the exceptions
of perhaps a few
but there are too many conflicting views
on the whole
to declare one Holy
Religion
as the True Religion.
Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman! and on many websites. Feynman based the phrase on a concept in anthropology, the cargo cult, which describes how some pre-scientific cultures interpreted technologically advanced visitors as religious or supernatural figures who brought boons of cargo. Later, in an effort to call for a second visit the natives would develop and engage in complex religious rituals, mirroring the previously observed behavior of the visitors manipulating their machines but without understanding the true nature of those tasks. Just as cargo cultists create mock airports that fail to produce airplanes, cargo cult scientists conduct flawed research that superficially resembles the scientific method, but which fails to produce scientifically useful results.

Following is an excerpt from speech (taken from the book).

In the South Seas there is a cargo cult of people. During the war they saw airplanes land with lots of good materials, and they want the same thing to happen now. So they've arranged to imitate things like runways, to put fires along the sides of the runways, to make a wooden hut for a man to sit in, with two wooden pieces on his head like headphones and bars of bamboo sticking out like antennas--he's the controller--and they wait for the airplanes to land. They're doing everything right. The form is perfect. It looks exactly the way it looked before. But it doesn't work. No airplanes land. So I call these things cargo cult science, because they follow all the apparent precepts and forms of scientific investigation, but they're missing something essential, because the planes don't land.

Feynman cautioned that to avoid becoming cargo cult scientists, researchers must avoid fooling themselves, be willing to question and doubt their own theories and their own results, and investigate possible flaws in a theory or an experiment. He recommended that researchers adopt an unusually high level of honesty which is rarely encountered in everyday life, and gives examples from advertising, politics, and behavioral psychology to illustrate the everyday dishonesty which should be unacceptable in science. Feynman cautions,

"We've learned from experience that the truth will come out. Other experimenters will repeat your experiment and find out whether you were wrong or right. Nature's phenomena will agree or they'll disagree with your theory. And, although you may gain some temporary fame and excitement, you will not gain a good reputation as a scientist if you haven't tried to be very careful in this kind of work. And it's this type of integrity, this kind of care not to fool yourself, that is missing to a large extent in much of the research in Cargo Cult Science."

An example of cargo cult science is an experiment that uses another researcher's results in lieu of an experimental control. Since the other researcher's conditions might differ from those of the present experiment in unknown ways, differences in the outcome might have no relation to the independent variable under consideration. Other examples, given by Feynman, are from educational research, psychology (particularly parapsychology), and physics. He also mentions other kinds of dishonesty, for example, falsely promoting one's research to secure funding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult_science
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Maybe Lupus...

Post by secretnude » Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:24 am

"And He (Christ) is the of the body, the church (Col.1:18), "which is His body, the Fulness of Him the that Filleth all in all (Eph. 1:23)
http://orthodoxinfo.com/general/stjohn_church.aspx

Religion is mostly unverifiable.

I don't know how we could verify
Religions claims
and indeed claim
a basis for Self-Correction
of Religious Deception.

One Christian Group
will claim the other Christian Group
is out to deceive
with what they might perceive
as the work of Satan
just because they can
sometimes without basis.

The basis
of Christianity
which is the Bible hath splintered Christianity.

If the Church is the Body of Christ
then Christ
is suffering
as one part
fights another part
like an autoimmune disease
that causes unease...

It might be Lupus
but Dr. House said it isn't Lupus.
The phrase was coined when the younger doctors were suggesting a case of lupus, when they couldn’t figure out what was wrong with the patient. Because lupus usually takes several years to be diagnosed, Dr. House usually says “It’s not lupus.” or “It’s never lupus.”. That was until the team actually ran into a case, where House had to admit there being an actual case of lupus.
Usage

The phrase is commonly used in situations involving the character of doctor House, but it can also used as a response in situations involving an illness. The phrase has also been associated with jokes involving wolves and other animals, due to the Latin family name Canis Lupus.
What is Lupus?

Lupus is a shortened name of Systemic Lupus Erythematosus. Lupus is a chronic disease,which causes the body’s immune system to attack body cells. It most often harms the heart, joints, skin, lungs, blood vessels, liver, kidneys, and nervous system, and is often fatal, for there is no cure for lupus yet.

The reason why the doctors at PPTH is unable to determine whether a certain disease is lupus or not is because lupus often mimics or is mistaken for other illnesses. Lupus is known as one of the “great imitators” within diseases. Symptoms of lupus may vary widely and come and go unpredictably.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-not-lupus
When someone comes to you and say that God gave him a clear audible and/or visual revelation (dream, vision, prophecy, etc.), you are now in what I will call the IHOP Dilemma.

Due to the seriousness of disobeying genuine prophecy and the heinousness of proclaiming a false one, you are in an IHOP Dilemma when you are now forced to choose:

1) If this person is actually speaking truth from God. If so, we are bound to listen or face incurring the steep penalty of disobeying God's very own commands via His prophet.

or

2) Whether or not a person is proclaiming falsehood in God's name and thus incurring the steep penalty of false prophesying and being a false prophet.

Unfortunately, this puts the rest of Christianity in a hard situation, because we now have to make the determination whether IHOP is full of false prophets or true prophets and to treat them as such.
http://carm.org/ihop
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Christ heal thyself

Post by secretnude » Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:01 am

Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by[c] one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... nthians+12

Christianity must heal
itself but the autoimmune disease
that causes unease
seems to be immune
to even the healing
power of the 'Lord'.

Before Christians preach the 'Lord'
maybe they should heal
the Lord's Body
first so that nobody
can claim that Christianity is sick.

The sickness
was evident
such that it was almost impossible
for anyone to prevent
me from leaving a Faith
that fate
hath it is incompatible
to my current beliefs
which is non-belief
in a Deity.

I would be quite happy
to see a healthy
Body
of Christ
but even Christ
can't heal his own Body.
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