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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by eric_marsh » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:30 pm

Algernon Sydney is Dead wrote:
ROU Killing Time wrote:Now I have to do the character count, and subtract the spaces (I don't have MS-word, which gives characters with and without spaces. One of the reasons I don't twabble much. Such a pain in the ass to figure out if I've hit 100.
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I could probably gin up a handy web tool, if enough people were interested.
Here's a quick little shell script I worked up.

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sed 's/[ ]*//g' $1 | tr -d '\n' | wc -c
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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by ROU Killing Time » Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:47 pm

strawman wrote:
ROU Killing Time wrote: Yup, that's me, just another Jesus-clone... (someone should write a song about that...)
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Now that I think about it, isn't that the common problem with cloning? You get some weird-ass genetic flaw that makes you an imperfect copy.

So if you actually had been able to clone Jesus, you really might end up with Jesus on Tuesday and Satan on Thursday. In other words, it's entirely possible, ROU, that this was not the result of a psychiatric disorder. You may actually BE a Jesus Clone.

Here I go practicing medicine without a license again. Perhaps I should consult with my learned colleague, Dr. Grimsley, MD, AARP
See my Twabble on this very subject. On the theological side, the ironic thing about this whole issue is that, while, as John Astin said in Night Court court ("I'm feeling MUCH better now") and I generally have such issues under control of my double-registry system of delusional processing (and as much humor as possible), from God's persepective, that is exactly who I am, and who you are, and who everyone else is...

Jesus got tired of being an only child...

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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by eric_marsh » Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:32 pm

Oh my God! I can see it all perfectly clearly now. Jesus meets cloning, Barney meets Ray Bradbury, the Wizard of Oz comes to Baltimore... This place is a meme breeding ground and we are merely the caterpillars used by meme wasps to propagate their next generation, a new breed of hybrids.
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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by strawman » Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:37 pm

And Norm IS Hewlett Packard Lovecraft.
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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by Algernon Sydney is Dead » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:13 am

eric_marsh wrote:Here's a quick little shell script I worked up.

#!/bin/sh
sed 's/[ ]*//g' $1 | tr -d '\n' | wc -c
Gesundheit!

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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by ROU Killing Time » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:12 am

Algernon Sydney is Dead wrote:
eric_marsh wrote:Here's a quick little shell script I worked up.

#!/bin/sh
sed 's/[ ]*//g' $1 | tr -d '\n' | wc -c
Gesundheit!
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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by Mr. Tweedy » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:14 am

Ga! I don't even have time to read this thread, and I still haven't rewritten my defense of capitalism for the other thread. This forum is freakin' fecund!
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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by ROU Killing Time » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:10 am

Mr. Tweedy wrote:Ga! I don't even have time to read this thread, and I still haven't rewritten my defense of capitalism for the other thread. This forum is freakin' fecund!
No kidding. I don't feel like such a forum hog anymore. Sure I've got a huge post count, but look at the posts/day ratio of Marsh-man.

(btw, I too have noticed that pervasiveness of trinity-based objects in the universe too. Look at the atom, for instance. Perfect balance between positron, and electron, bound by neutron. Interesting that the main line of defense I have against mania is the 3rd simplest atom in the universe, lithium. 3 electrons, positrons, and neutrons. A trinity of trinities there...)

Hopefully I'll be able to get back on my meds soon. (Ya can't pay the bills, ya don't get the pills...) I've been off meds for 4 months now, so if I seem overly manic in my postings, sorry about that. I'm doing my best to get back on them though. On the upside (sorry about the pun) lots of interesting ideas have come in this period of non-medication, and so far I've been able to keep it under control enough to avoid another trip to the psyche ward.
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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by Algernon Sydney is Dead » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:25 am

ROU Killing Time wrote: (btw, I too have noticed that pervasiveness of trinity-based objects in the universe too. Look at the atom, for instance. Perfect balance between positron, and electron, bound by neutron. Interesting that the main line of defense I have against mania is the 3rd simplest atom in the universe, lithium. 3 electrons, positrons, and neutrons. A trinity of trinities there...)

Hopefully I'll be able to get back on my meds soon. (Ya can't pay the bills, ya don't get the pills...) I've been off meds for 4 months now, so if I seem overly manic in my postings, sorry about that. I'm doing my best to get back on them though. On the upside (sorry about the pun) lots of interesting ideas have come in this period of non-medication, and so far I've been able to keep it under control enough to avoid another trip to the psyche ward.
Not "positron", Proton. They're two very different beasties. Also, a neutron as basically a form of proton and electron mashed together in unholy union -- so there's really only TWO things at the atomic level.

Sorry to hear about your meds but isn't Lithium cheap? Maybe it's the medical-grade stuff... Damn you, FDA! Damn you to Hell!
Also, back when I was fooled into thinking I needed $5-per-pill meds, I saved big bucks by buying from Canada, India, and AFAIR, Germany. I seem to have dodged the counterfeit bullet, too.

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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

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ROU Killing Time wrote:
Mr. Tweedy wrote:Ga! I don't even have time to read this thread, and I still haven't rewritten my defense of capitalism for the other thread. This forum is freakin' fecund!
No kidding. I don't feel like such a forum hog anymore. Sure I've got a huge post count, but look at the posts/day ratio of Marsh-man.
Posting here is somewhat therapeutic to me - gives me a chance to use my imagination when I otherwise have to just drudge through the mundane necessities of making sales phone calls to try and make a living - which I've not been doing as well as I'd like lately....
I've been off meds for 4 months now, so if I seem overly manic in my postings, sorry about that. I'm doing my best to get back on them though. On the upside (sorry about the pun) lots of interesting ideas have come in this period of non-medication, and so far I've been able to keep it under control enough to avoid another trip to the psyche ward.
Well, I've enjoyed your conversation. As I have said elsewhere, I get bored easily and I've found your comments quite interesting.
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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by Mr. Tweedy » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:23 am

Algernon Sydney is Dead wrote: Not "positron", Proton. They're two very different beasties. Also, a neutron as basically a form of proton and electron mashed together in unholy union -- so there's really only TWO things at the atomic level.
I thought it was all quarks and gluons?
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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by ROU Killing Time » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:34 am

Yes, lithium is cheap, but I got behind in my bills to my shrink (feeding the family came first, one of those "let your own teeth rot so you can take your kid to the dentist" situation), so he kicked me to the curb. (I did pay him back, but once your kicked to the curb, you are pretty much screwed. Waiting lists for shrinks are about 4 months long these days. Apparently the economy has sent a flood of business their way, what with people being depressed about not having a job...

So, no shrink, no prescription, no pills. Never get behind on a bill from your doctor. Moral of that story.
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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by Algernon Sydney is Dead » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:35 am

Mr. Tweedy wrote:I thought it was all quarks and gluons?
Next level down. We were at the atomic and nuclear level. Quarks would be sub that.

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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

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ROU Killing Time wrote: (btw, I too have noticed that pervasiveness of trinity-based objects in the universe too. Look at the atom, for instance. Perfect balance between positron, and electron, bound by neutron. Interesting that the main line of defense I have against mania is the 3rd simplest atom in the universe, lithium. 3 electrons, positrons, and neutrons. A trinity of trinities there...)

Hopefully I'll be able to get back on my meds soon. (Ya can't pay the bills, ya don't get the pills...) I've been off meds for 4 months now, so if I seem overly manic in my postings, sorry about that. I'm doing my best to get back on them though. On the upside (sorry about the pun) lots of interesting ideas have come in this period of non-medication, and so far I've been able to keep it under control enough to avoid another trip to the psyche ward.
Not "positron", Proton. They're two very different beasties. Also, a neutron as basically a form of proton and electron mashed together in unholy union -- so there's really only TWO things at the atomic level.

Sorry to hear about your meds but isn't Lithium cheap? Maybe it's the medical-grade stuff... Damn you, FDA! Damn you to Hell!
Also, back when I was fooled into thinking I needed $5-per-pill meds, I saved big bucks by buying from Canada, India, and AFAIR, Germany. I seem to have dodged the counterfeit bullet, too.
You mean you took that evil socialist subsidized Canadian medicine? OMG, I never figured you to be a commie traiter. Shame on you, cheating our fine US pharmaceutical companies that way. <tongue firmly in cheek>

Sorry about the positon gaffe. Guess I pulled a Biden on that one. Musta had Asimov on the brain when I wrote that.
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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by Algernon Sydney is Dead » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:56 am

ROU Killing Time wrote:...Waiting lists for shrinks are about 4 months long these days. Apparently the economy has sent a flood of business their way, what with people being depressed about not having a job...

So, no shrink, no prescription, no pills. Never get behind on a bill from your doctor. Moral of that story.
I wouldn't have guessed that about the shrinks, but you are in Portland and Winter is here...

I can think of a few other morals to that story, but I'll spare you (for now).

Around here (PRK), you could actually sue your doc and win, for cutting you off. Can't you go to a cheap GP, office visit $45, and get an RX?

You mean you took that evil socialist subsidized Canadian medicine? OMG, I never figured you to be a commie traiter. Shame on you, cheating our fine US pharmaceutical companies that way. <tongue firmly in cheek>
Not at all. Drugs are kept artificially low in Canada (and elsewhere) by the immoral actions of the Canadian and US governments. Likewise, costs are outrageously high in the States for the same reasons.

I was just being a good capitalist and working around barriers.

When you don't have health insurance, you have to really shop around and bargain with docs ahead of time, for cash prices.

When I had insurance, they paid about 25 cents on the dollar -- with a TON of paperwork, restrictions and back and forth.
Medicare/Medicaid combined with my Grandma's supplemental insurance only pays about 20 cents on the dollar, with even more overhead.

Yet, doctors, hospitals, pharmacies, etc., will try to charge you full list price (4 to 5 times what they were happy to get from the huge institutions), unless you shop and negotiate before hand.

And, that's not an argument for full-blown fascism. It's an indictment of the system when the government only wrecks about 3/4's of the medical economy -- as they increasingly have, since the 30's.

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Re: Memespace (Drabbler #16 Entry)

Post by ROU Killing Time » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:49 am

Algernon Sydney is Dead wrote: Around here (PRK), you could actually sue your doc and win, for cutting you off. Can't you go to a cheap GP, office visit $45, and get an RX?
65 dollars after my medicare co-pay, but they still had to send me to the shrink for the scrip. That happens December 2nd. Yes, it was unwise to let the deductible go wanting, but at the time it was a choice between that and buying groceries. Still, one of the symptoms I have to contend with is a less than stellar decision making process regarding personal finances. Pretty typical in bi-polar cases, not that I can blame it all on my condition. Suing doctors is somewhat of a taboo in my family, having been a service provider to doctors in the past, as I've mentioned. Also, while he technically cut me off for about two weeks before he sent me official notification via registered letter that he wouldn't see me anymore 30 days after receipt of said letter, he still filled that final prescription, then sent off, what I'm sure is the usual "cover your ass" legal manuever. So even if I were the litigous type, I'm sure I probably have no case in any event.
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Not at all. Drugs are kept artificially low in Canada (and elsewhere) by the immoral actions of the Canadian and US governments. Likewise, costs are outrageously high in the States for the same reasons.

I was just being a good capitalist and working around barriers.

When you don't have health insurance, you have to really shop around and bargain with docs ahead of time, for cash prices.

When I had insurance, they paid about 25 cents on the dollar -- with a TON of paperwork, restrictions and back and forth.
Medicare/Medicaid combined with my Grandma's supplemental insurance only pays about 20 cents on the dollar, with even more overhead.

Yet, doctors, hospitals, pharmacies, etc., will try to charge you full list price (4 to 5 times what they were happy to get from the huge institutions), unless you shop and negotiate before hand.

And, that's not an argument for full-blown fascism. It's an indictment of the system when the government only wrecks about 3/4's of the medical economy -- as they increasingly have, since the 30's.
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I was joshing you about the commie thing, of course, but I hope you know my style in such things by now. Certainly Medicare and such as flawed systems, however I look at that like I look at the papal decree against birth control... On one hand, it's seems draconian and out of the dark ages, on the other hand, as the last of 6 children (and 10 pregnancies) well, I probably wouldn't be here without said ban. Likewise with medicare and disability. I don't feel bad about being on disability, i paid into the insurance program while I worked, and so, I can continue to eat and feed my family, not in any grand fashion of course, but I've never found myself to be one to place a high priority in the acquisition of wealth... (not that I condemn in any other's that wish to increase their standard of living.) My dad came to the U.S. to pursue the American dream. I like the American dream and wish it to come true for anyone that seeks it. I did try my hardest, post-diagnosis to continue working. My last job was at Oregon Special Olympics working on database stuff. They let me go because "While you are very intelligent and we all love you a lot, your condition is preventing you from being able to focus on the task at hand." Actually, as they knew of my condition prior to hiring me, (and even if they didn't) they were on shaky ground there, under the ADA for firing me. If you think I'm hesistant about suing doctors, imagine what a heel I'd consider myself had I sued special olympics.

I took it as a sign that if OSO didn't have a place for me, an organization that is dedicated to helping those with mental disabilities, albeit a different mental disability than mine, that seemed a sure sign that there were few places that would put up with the distractions, obsessions, and lack of focus on things other than those that were spinning around my head. Two years of support from my family (and my first wife working her ass off to put food on the table) got me to the point where I was sitting in front of the government disability determination psychologist, who confirmed that I was not, in fact, faking my condition. Of course, this was during the Clinton years, so that may have worked in my favor... :P

All that being said, should I write my Hugo/Nebula winning magnum opus and become as rich as Stephen King, I wouldn't say "Oh, no, that would just not be right." (Although I would take care to dodge vans if I am walking at the roadside...)

I'd be happy to pay my taxes, and by this nice house overlooking Pleasant Bay and the Atlantic where my wife and I are caring for her grandfather. It would be cool to keep it in the family. Maybe Steven Tyler will rent the house next door again and I can get his autograph for my son.

Without the combination of family support (I have the best family, both by descent and in-law) and my disability and medicare I'd be one of those unfortunates standing on the street corner, or quite probably, no longer alive and posting here on this forum, garnering critical acclaim from an audience that considers my "strange thought processes" a boon. ;-)

Sadly, not all those with conditions like mine (or with conditions much worse) are blessed with such families... If I ever do break through the disability wall and become, once again, a useful member of society, I would like to think I'll try and help out where I can.

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Re: Memespace

Post by eric_marsh » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:20 am

A followup from an article I'm reading:

" Memes are all attempting to self-replicate by exploiting inconsistencies or weaknesses in our cultural code. They are not attacking one another; they are attacking us humans. "

http://www.iftf.org/fileadmin/user_uplo ... 042618.pdf
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Re: Memespace

Post by ROU Killing Time » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:42 am

They attack each other using humans as proxies.
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